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Boris Gelfand vs Ruslan Ponomariov
FIDE Grand Prix Paris (2013), Elancourt FRA, rd 11, Oct-04
Dutch Defense: Leningrad. Warsaw Variation (A88)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Oct-04-13  chessdgc2: marmot PFL: Let's hope he does, right now it doesn't look that way
Oct-04-13  Marmot PFL: BG has his head in his hands, hard to predict what he will decide.
Oct-04-13  chessdgc2: Now Gelfand needs to leave his piece of wood on f1 or they'll be shaking hands
Oct-04-13  Marmot PFL: Maybe he is saving the apple until move 40, if that means anything.
Oct-04-13  Marmot PFL: Looks like draw now however.
Oct-04-13  boz: Game over...ho-hum.
Oct-04-13  haydn20: White can improve his position with 25. Nce2 then Nf4. Looks like the attacker has outwaited the positional player.
Oct-04-13  Marmot PFL: Positions with 30 of the 32 pieces left should be played out.
Oct-04-13  PinnedPiece: Nakamura has no winning chances. Gelfand may decide this position is not worth trying to crack and risk a loss.

Shared first with Caruana....

Oct-04-13  chessdgc2: Sometimes one can justifiably wonder if these games are this game, NEITHER player EVER made a single aggressive tell me that's a "coincidence"
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  Domdaniel: Fair result -- Gelfand was being super-solid, and Pono didn't want to take any great risks after equalizing. Guess I was wrong to say these Dutch positions don't become drawish. In the hands of Masters, anything can happen. Thanks to Chessdgc2, Ulhumbrus, Haydn, and everyone who kibitzed.
Oct-04-13  haydn20: <PinnedPiece: Nakamura has no winning chances. Gelfand may decide this position is not worth trying to crack and risk a loss. Shared first with Caruana....> Yep, and since Black has no real prospects here, he is happy to concur.
Oct-04-13  PinnedPiece: <Marmot PFL: Positions with 30 of the 32 pieces left should be played out.>

50 more Rf1 Ne4 moves? probably not very exciting.

Oct-04-13  haydn20: Looks like Bacrot had a nice tournament & let's hope Giri had a learning experience.
Oct-04-13  tbentley: Yes, we need exciting games like A Filipowicz vs P Smederevac, 1966.
Oct-04-13  Ulhumbrus: We may think it possible that either player considered any number of explosive sacrifices but that neither player found any of them convincing
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  HeMateMe: First!
Oct-04-13  chessdgc2: Well I certainly don't mean to sound's hard to hide disappointment. Neither player showed the slightest sign of wanting to win this game and this isn't good for chess..I'm sure tournament status influenced this
Oct-04-13  patfoley: 25 Bc6 bc 26 Nc6 Rd7 28 Nb5 would have been fun to watch, but perhaps not to play when you are already number 1. Black doesn't keep many pawns on the Queenside.
Oct-04-13  chessdgc2: That is true...tournament status must be considered
Oct-04-13  chessdgc2: Thanks for the broadcast! All of you have a great weekend and will see you all again soon
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  Octavia: <chessdgc2> why are you so desperate to see wins all the time? Draws are the bread & butter for GMs - but its a well kept secret, apparently!
Oct-04-13  chessdgc2: Octavia: Good point! Umm, no, I'm not exactly desperate to see wins, just aggressive, daring play...the result isn't the most important thing to me, the ideas this game, there was no aggressive idea at all, but you're right, draws are the bread and butter of GM's a huge % of the time
Oct-04-13  ajile: What a shame. Neither player tried very hard to win this game.
Oct-04-13  chessdgc2: ajile: Yes and most of us recognize that...some think Gelfand played solid which in my opinion, is hard to argue with since Pono never came at him....and Gelfand didn't need to win this game. This sort of thing takes the sportsmanship from chess, but it is understandable
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