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Viswanathan Anand vs Magnus Carlsen
Anand - Carlsen World Championship Match (2013), Chennai IND, rd 4, Nov-13
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Nov-14-13  talisman: <RedShield> thank you. kept thinking about Myshkan at the end of the Dostoevsky novel the idiot. beautiful song man, no sarcasm intended.
Nov-14-13  Pulo y Gata: Tallis is Briony, of McEwan's Atonement.
Nov-14-13  RITWIK11: Carlsen gives such a tough fight
Nov-14-13  Talismun: <talisman> oops dint realize I picked a name too close to an active ID. I will see if I can change it.
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  thegoodanarchist: Move 18 Ne2 Bxa2 and to me it looks as if both players are being "cute", if you will pardon my American idiom. Why is this?

Can it be anything other than gamesmanship?

Nov-14-13  talisman: <Talismun> good name man...NO problem. as in Oddball in Kelly's Heroes etc...
Nov-15-13  csmath: Open bidding process presumes there are organizers with guaranteed funds ready to wait for that process to conclude because they will be able to sell exclusive TV access to NBC/ABC/ ..., stadium tickets, and championship merchandise contracts/endorsement.

The reality is there is no money in chess and no money that can be made.

If this is not so then:

Where is Tilburg supertournament?
What happened to Linares 2011, 2012, 2013?
What about Amsterdam? Perhaps we still have M-Tel Masters? Nanjing? How long Sinquefield will last you think? More than twice like Piatigorsky?

Chennai is way the best you can get, be grateful to Tamil Nadu government.

Nov-15-13  WiseWizard: With 2 minutes on the clock Anand plays 35. Ne4!! #clutch. Saves the game and possibly the title. Old Anand is still Anand of old.
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  perfidious: <WiseWizard: With 2 minutes on the clock Anand plays 35. Ne4!! #clutch. Saves the game and possibly the title. Old Anand is still Anand of old.>

Have the rules of probability been redefined, with being down 0-1 and eight games remaining in this hypothetical situation leaving the champion little chance, as implied by the above statement?

Nov-15-13  WiseWizard: Have the rules for reading been redefined or did you purposefully ignore the word <possibly> in my post?
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  perfidious: Not at all-it should be noted that, like your pal <SirRuthless>, you are given to hyperbole and statements filled with bombastic nonsense, in the manner of someone who knows a thing or three-just enough to get you in trouble when the day comes to play with the big boys.
Nov-15-13  WiseWizard: It is <possible> to ignore my posts.
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  perfidious: It is more than possible that you, as well as <SirRuthless>, are oblivious to the ignorance of your behaviour.
Nov-17-13  Boris Schipkov: A terrific battle: Anand-Carlsen, game 4 with my commentary and analysis:
Nov-17-13  peltonen: 26. ... Nh4 instead of Ne7
31. ... Bxf5!! instead of g6
43. ... Rxc8 instead of Rdd3
look stronger for MC. He lost his victory equalising the game.

I don't see 35. Ne4 as a strong move by Vishy as it's commonly said, but Magnus responses with weak moves 36. ... Rf4+? and 37. ... Rf8?

Nov-23-13  offramp: My favourite part of this entire world championship match: After 18.Ne2

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It's Fischer's move from game 1 in 1972 but here it is not a blunder. It almost <proves> that Carlsen is better than Fischer.

Nov-26-13  Everyone: Forget the lousy a-pawn on the other wing - mate ends the game!
Mar-12-14  yureesystem: Anand make it look soooo easy to draw in a very difficult game being two pawn down, it proofs that Magnus is not greater than Fischer or Capablanca. Magnus was expressing frustration and having doubts, unfortunately, Vishy lose the next game, even though he outplay Carlsen.
Mar-12-14  Jim Bartle: <yureesystem>: < proofs that Magnus is not greater than Fischer or Capablanca.>

One game, against the world champion, proves that?

Mar-12-14  Petrosianic: <One game, against the world champion, proves that?>

Apparently so. But then, of course, Game 7 against Spassky similarly proves that Fischer isn't greater than Capablanca...

Unless of course we make the mistake of looking at any Capablanca-Lasker games that might disprove our pre-fact conclusion. I'm getting the feeling from this and other posts that yureesystem is the HarryLime of the Anand set.

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  tamar: It's hard to know how such a game influences players. Anand could have many reasons to feel more confident after finding many inspired moves that kept his game alive.

But in matches the psychology is often reversed. Not scoring a win makes a player, particularly an older player, wonder what else he has to do to score a point.

I felt in particular that Anand was relieved that he was forced to play all out from the opening, because he was a pawn down.

But he was never able to gain an advantage, and you could tell in the video the nervous energy he expended made him jumpy near the end of the game, when Magnus started setting one trap after another, and would not acquiesce in what looked like an easy draw.

Apr-09-14  joddon: when anand sees his own mistakes he lets his opponents know.
Feb-14-15  1 2 3 4: Sometimes I think Carlsen's favorite player was Fischer. Like literally. Only Fischer.
Feb-17-15  Cedroke: 56... Re6 is probably my favourite move in this game.
Jan-16-16  RookFile: What a marvelous game, rich in great complexity.
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