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Peter Svidler vs Vladimir Kramnik
World Championship Candidates (2014), Khanty-Mansiysk RUS, rd 3, Mar-15
English Opening: Symmetrical. Four Knights Variation (A35)  ·  1/2-1/2



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  cro777: Draw agreed!
Mar-15-14  DcGentle: Great game, such a draw is advertising chess! :-)
Mar-15-14  Ulhumbrus: The Russian commentators called this a fantastic draw
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  LucB: <<chancho:> The best thing that ever happened to Vishy was getting slapped upside his head by Magnus last year.

It appears to have awakened that killer instinct that was sorely lacking these last few years.>

I don't think it's that; it think it's because I've stopped getting up at such ungodly hours (EST or EDT) to watch the start of these affairs.. I must have jinxed him all along these last few years..

On a more serious note... it could also be the ton of leftover prep. that he didn't use during the Nov. match (in addition to a bit of ego-crushing).

Mar-15-14  Ulhumbrus: One alternative to 41 Qc6 is 41 Qe4. One of the Russian commentators or one of the kibitzers here may have mentioned it.
Mar-15-14  visayanbraindoctor: In the live stream, Svidler acts so agitated, but Kramnik looks kind of bored and sleepy. After playing one of the most humanly impossible-looking defenses I have ever seen.
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  wordfunph: 45...f5! followed by 46...Rf6!, Vlad at his best!

heart-pounding game whewww!

Mar-15-14  Ezzy: 'The art of defence' - Vladimir Kramnik.

One of the best defensive efforts I have seen in a long time. This precision defending can save important points and make the difference of winning or losing a tournament.

Great game of attack and defence. The Candidates is really hotting up!

Mar-15-14  positionalgenius: "The art of defense" indeed, Ezzy.
Mar-15-14  RedShield: Another example of Kramnik's weak opening preparation, especially with black.
Mar-15-14  ralph46: It seems to me that SVIDLER instead of 34 Qc4 Qc5 is a bit better with the idea Rd4
Mar-15-14  Edeltalent: I tried to make 41.Qc8 work, but couldn't (not checked with a computer, so feel free to point out mistakes in my analysis):

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After 41.Qc8, the idea from the game fails because 41...e4 42.fxe4 Qe2 43.Qf5 f6 44.e5 this time is crushing (44...Qxe5 45.Qxe5 fxe5 46.Rxf8+ Kxf8 47.Bc5 Ke7 48.Bxb4 is the win that could also have arisen from the game).

A better defense is 41...Qe2 with the idea 42.Re3 Qb5 and d6 is falling. (I assume this variation is the reason why Svidler chose Qc6 in the game, keeping b5 under control). White can play 42.Rd5 to prevent this, after which creating counterplay with the rook is too slow: 42...Ra7 43.d7 Ra2 44.Qxf8+ Kxf8 45.d8Q+ Kg7 46.Qb6 e4 47.Rf5 and wins.

However, Black gets his thematic counterplay in with 42...e4. Now 43.Qxd7 Qxf3+ 44.Kg1 e3 45.Rf5 exf2+ (45...Qxg4+ 46.Kf1 Qh3+ 47.Ke2 Qxh5+ 48.Kxe3 Qh3+ 49.Ke2 Qg4+ 50.Kd2) 46.Kf1 Qd1+ seems like a perpetual to me. White can try 45.Qf5 exf2+ 46.Kf1 Qh1+ 47.Kxf2 Qh2+ 48.Kf1 Bxd6 49.Qf3, where he might have some chances despite the open king.

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It's a moot point though, as Black can force a perpetual earlier by playing 43...e3 instead.

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Mar-15-14  ralph46: By the way 33 .. b4 was the only move to keep Kramnik in the game on any other move Svidler had the crushing Qc7 and black is lost
Mar-15-14  csmath: Great opening play by Svidler. The opening play by Kramnik does not seem very convincing, 10. ...Be6 is not usually played on this level, it looks like a move from Dragon.

25. c5!

is a very confident move, I think this is a new Svidler from the last few years who is not afraid of Kramnik one bit.

25. ...Qxc5?!

and Kramnik accepts "sacrifice".

28. h5?

[Peter misses a death blow:
28. Be3! Qc6 29. Rc1 Qa8 30. Bb6 Rb8 31. Nxe8 Rxd3 32. Nf6 Kg7 33. Qxd3 Rxb6 34. h5

and white is clearly better, with likely decisive advantage though the continuation requires precise tactical game with both kings likely open.]

39. ...e5?!

[just before time control(?) Kramnik falls back. Apparently he is also in the fighting mood. Looks like 39. Qe5 was sufficient to keep the game equal.]

41. Qc6?

[Peter leaves b4 pawn intact for mirage of a win that is not there.]

41. ...e4!
44. ...f6

Such a simple and adequate defence!

Peter still tried a bit but there was nothing to gain.

46. ...Rf6!

in spite and white cannot do anything.

[for example 47. e6 Qe5, 48. Bg3 Qe4 49. Kf2 Qd4 with perpetual or repetition.]

This is one fine draw and Kramnik will be very happy that he got it.

Mar-15-14  csmath: The way that Kramnik played before the time control (around move 40) suggests that he thought his position was difficult and that he is forced to respond with active play which is what he did. However I think Svidler missed some serious chances in this game which is on this level (Candidates) usually not forgiving.
Mar-15-14  BOSTER: Watching this game I had no tiniest doubt that white should win. After crazy 28. Nc8 white is better.
Mar-16-14  visayanbraindoctor:

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In the live stream interview, the players described remarkable positions that ensued, such as this, as 'alien'. It's awfully difficult to calculate well in these positions, which I usually describe as 'difficult', 'complicated' or 'bizarre'.

Mar-16-14  visayanbraindoctor: In a bizarre, complicated, difficult, and alien middlegame Kramnik found a humanly near impossible defense, featuring approximately 8 only moves, some of which look computer-like. For all its faults I am highly impressed by Kramnik's defense. He found all the appropriate game saving tactical shots.
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  cro777: Svidler remarked he might have missed a chance to win on 36th move.

Position after 35...Qb5

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Here, Svidler played 36.Be1. "I thought what I was doing was very clever but I missed 36...Qe5", he said.

Instead of keeping the queens on the board, he should have played 36.Qxb5.

36. Qxb5 axb5 37. f4! gxf4 38. Bxf4

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White is threatening Bd2.

38...Bf8 is met with 39.Be5.

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  offramp: A fantastic defensive achievement. Kramnik can be so hard to beat.
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  al wazir: I figured that black had to play for a draw. I got that much right.

But then what's wrong with my move, 46...g4 ? I think white has to play 47. Rg3 to avoid losing, and after 47...Rd2 48. Qg6+ Kh8 49. Qb6 Qxe5 50. Re3 Rxf2+ 51. Kxf2 Bc5 52. Qd8+ Kg7 53. Qd7+ Kf6 54. Qe6+ Qxe6 55. fxe6 g3+ 56. Kf3 g2 57. e7 g1=Q 58. e8=Q Bxe3 59. Qxe3, it looks drawn.

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  patfoley: 46...Qe4 looks like a try for Black. One sequence is 47Kg3 Qh4ch 48 Kg2 Qg4ch 49 Rg3 Qe4 ch
Mar-13-15  M.Hassan: "Difficult"
Black to play 46...?
Black is a pawn down

<if 47.exf6 Qxe8 and White Queen is lost> A) 47.e6 Rxf5
48.Rxf5 Qg4+
49.Kh2 Qxf5
50.Bg3(no other place safer than g3) Qc2+
51.Kh3 Qxb3
52.e7 Qe6+
53.Kh2 Qxe7
54.Qxe7 Bxe7
Black is winning

B) 47.Kg3 Qe4
48.Re3 Qh4+
49.Kg2 Qg4+
50.Rg3 Qe2
51.Re3 Qg4
52.Rg3 Qe2
Draw by repetition.
I get two different results!!
Best to check the game.

Mar-13-15  lost in space: Found 46...Rf6 and the idea to use the queen for a perp. But I was far away from being able to get all the details and options.
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  agb2002: I know this game. No fun today.
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