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Sergey Karjakin vs Veselin Topalov
World Championship Candidates (2014), Khanty-Mansiysk RUS, rd 4, Mar-17
English Opening: King's English. Four Knights Variation Fianchetto Lines (A29)  ·  1/2-1/2



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  whiteshark: Game Collection: 03_Heavy pieces in action: pure QRR middlegames
Mar-17-14  DcGentle: <26. Rd4> is tricky, will Topalov find this?
Mar-17-14  DcGentle: He did indeed.
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  whiteshark: The tactics are there...
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  whiteshark: Game Collection: 04_Q:RR
Mar-17-14  DcGentle:

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Black to make his 29th move. <29... Qd6> looks likely.

Mar-17-14  Sokrates: Q vs. 2xR is always interesting. In many positions the rooks are slightly better, but Topalov is a pawn up and the Q is a mighty lady. It now depends on the will of the contestants to go for a win. It would probably cost much sweat by either side, so I think it's likely that they'll shake hands soon.
Mar-17-14  chessdgc2: Sokrates: Very good assessment! There's big possibilities for either side, but not without a LOT of work and will...will they choose to do this? You seem to think they won't :) That would be the most natural guess, but are these guys "natural"?? :)
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  ocpman: Why not 30.b5 instead of 30.a5?
Mar-17-14  chessdgc2: We've gotta keep in mind that Topa chose the wild 1...Rd4 forcing the trade of his 2 R's for White's Q. So he "KNEW" what he was doing and I have to think he's willing to sweat this out...after all, if he does win, he gets a golden star and piece of cake :)
Mar-17-14  DcGentle: <ocpman>: <30. b5 cxb5 31. axb5 a5> would have delivered a passed pawn to Black. This was the reason Black played 29. Qd6 and not 29. Qd7, for example.
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  Honza Cervenka: This position looks like dead draw to me despite of Houdini's -0,43 evaluation.
Mar-17-14  chessdgc2: Yes, right now, neither side can afford to give up anything, but do you notice how the board is changing? It seems like the possibilities are increasing for White now that the 2 R's have shifted and the c1-R can move freely
Mar-17-14  DcGentle: Black has a big problem, he cannot have his queen guard the e-file and protect d4 at the same time.
Mar-17-14  Marmot PFL: Repetition of moves seems likely.
Mar-17-14  DcGentle: But only if White plays it correctly.
Mar-17-14  Marmot PFL: Topalov might try to win with a pawn more, and just repeats moves to get closer to time control. But without a passed pawn the chances seem remote.
Mar-17-14  chessdgc2: Yes, and even then there's still nothing promising...someone will have to really blow it bad...otherwise, I don't see anyone stepping out too far with a risk, so a draw is most likely now
Mar-17-14  Marmot PFL: White would like to attack d4 but f5 stops re4. White has weak pawns d3 and b4 as well.
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  Honza Cervenka: <Marmot PFL: Topalov might try to win with a pawn more, and just repeats moves to get closer to time control. But without a passed pawn the chances seem remote.> In fact black has to be quite careful in this position as two Rooks of white are potentially stronger than lone Queen. If he allows white to activate his Rooks, he can be in serious troubles quite soon.
Mar-17-14  chessdgc2: Marmot PFL: So White concludes your assessment by signaling a draw-offer via 1. Kf1, repeating moves...but Black doesn't have to accept it although why would he not?
Mar-17-14  DcGentle: Draw agreed.
Mar-17-14  dunamisvpm: None of them would take the greater risk of losing.
Mar-17-14  jakaiden: Are you going to switch to the Aronian game??
Mar-17-14  Ulhumbrus: Instead of 20 Qg4, 20 Nf3 removes the N from attack from Black's queen
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