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Arkadij Naiditsch vs Fabiano Caruana
Dortmund Sparkassen (2014), Dortmund GER, rd 3, Jul-15
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Jul-15-14  Ulhumbrus: Black's potential threat consists of a queen side attack. White's potential threat consists of f4-f5. The latter seems more difficult to arrange. However after 27 Bc1 let us try a few moves: 27...Rb3 28 f4 b5 29 Rf1 c5 30 f5 Bc4 31 Re1 b4 32 e6. It seems worth taking a look at.
Jul-15-14  DcGentle: Caruana is good, but to win with Black in the Berlin Wall is a tall order, if the opponent knows, what they are doing. And Naiditsch seems to be an expert, otherwise he wouldn't open with 1. e4 so often. ;-)
Jul-15-14  DcGentle: Position after <28... Rd5>:

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Jul-15-14  john barleycorn: Kd7, then move the queenside pawns is it for black, imo.
Jul-15-14  Ulhumbrus: Now White's f pawn is doubled and the players have opposite coloured bishops. My present guess is a draw.
Jul-15-14  boz: According to this data base positions arising after 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 Nf6 4 O-O Nxe4 have produced the following results:

White wins 29.0%
Black wins 22.2%
Draws 48.7%

So yes, tough for either side to win. However the position in this game is unlike any Berlin I've ever seen.

Jul-15-14  Strongest Force: Maybe Fab can squeeze blood from a turnip
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  tamar: About the only advantage Black has is his pieces can dance on the battlements, while White's hide on the ground floor.
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  plang: It is an interesting endgame - I don't see Black as having an advantage though
Jul-15-14  DcGentle: But in hindsight White's <a3> was not so bad, because indeed he managed to trade off Black's dark squared bishop. Maybe White has a chance if the rooks come off.
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  Mateo: Draw likely.
Jul-15-14  haydn20: There it is, 29... b5. Black's only real advantage is the mobile Q-side majority, so he may as well get them dogies rollin'. Tough to make progress without someting to control the dark squares however.
Jul-15-14  Ulhumbrus: Perhaps Caruana can think about ...c5 and ...b4 as well as ...Rd1 while Naiditsch can think about Kg3-h4-g5-h6-g7 as well as f4-f5 not to mention Rxe6 and f6-f7.
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  PawnSac: hmmm. just walked in here.
wow, deep in the game.

so what happens if white tries the cheapo Bh6 ?? (intending RxB i guess Ke8 would be forced? then f4 maybe?

i'm asking before thinking here..

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  tamar: 12 Bf4 does not make a great impression, if it's only role is to go back to c1 for the rest of the game.
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  PawnSac: yikes. just checked chessdom and CG was moves behind!
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  PawnSac: now after ...Ke6 and ..Bc2 it looks like white can't make any progress. drawn game. ok i'm going for a haircut.

have a great day folks!

Jul-15-14  Ulhumbrus: Black can think of sacrificing his c7 pawn and marching his king to b3. However with White's bishop on e5 ...Kxb2 can be answered by d4-d5+
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  kevin86: Looks like a draw 2 me.
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  WannaBe: Looks to be dead-drawn.
Jul-15-14  john barleycorn: draw now.
Jul-15-14  john barleycorn: leko-Adams also a draw. The Berlin wall still stands.
Jul-15-14  ajile: The Ruy Lopez (Berlin) doesn't appear to be working too well now against Black.
Jul-15-14  bobthebob: Absolutely a draw now
Jul-15-14  beenthere240: Similar theme to many exchange RLs -- white has the potential k-side majority and can block queenside pawns; black has 2 bishops. With 27...BxN(f6), the game becomes about as sterile as it can be, since we have BOCs and neither pawn majority can be used to force a passed pawn (3 holds 4 and 2 holds 3).
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