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Fabiano Caruana vs Maxime Vachier-Lagrave
FIDE Grand Prix Tashkent (2014), Tashkent UZB, rd 1, Oct-21
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation (B90)  ·  0-1

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Oct-21-14  notyetagm: A comment from chessbomb.com:

<Feynman: With this loss, Caruana has lost 3 of his last 6.>

Oct-21-14
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  chancho: Live rating 2700 Chess: Fabiano Caruana 2832.6 -11.4
Oct-21-14
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  alexmagnus: <With this loss, Caruana has lost 3 of his last 6.>

Yes, his last 6 games are 1 win, 2 draws and 3 losses. Over these 6 games he lost 18.7 rating points.

Oct-21-14  MarkFinan: Where are all the people who were comparing this guy to Fischer and Kasparov last month?? All looking for safe places to jump from the derailed bandwagon. I got ridiculed for questioning his character, how are you as good as Fischer yet still lose to this guy with the white pieces!?
Oct-21-14  lost in space: wow, MVL seems to approach the absolute top league of this planet.
Oct-21-14  belgradegambit: <how are you as good as Fischer yet still lose to this guy with the white pieces!?>

Umm MVL is rated 2753, has beaten Carsen and Aronian, 2 draws with Anand. How is it an upset to be lose to MVL?

Oct-21-14  a30seclegend: I agree that it shouldnt be an upset however, <lost in space> comment was saved by adding "with the white pieces!?"
Oct-21-14
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  Zhbugnoimt: MarkFinan: Fischer and Kasparov also had bad results. I think that Caruana one day will reach something like that, but he is not really close yet. Carlsen would beat him in a match, 100% of the time. But, it all depends on hs next tourney. Maybe this one is just a bad one, and next one he will shine.
Oct-21-14  Ulhumbrus: In the game Topalov vs M Vachier-Lagrave, 2014 White won instead of Black. This suggests the question of what the differences are between that game and the present game.
Oct-21-14  a30seclegend: <Ulhumbrus> Im guesssing 16Rg1 f5. Though it is still probably about the same evaluation, and even though I'm not a fan it is dangerous giving Topalov such targets. Plus I hear hes been in good form as well... (those words tasted terrible on the way out.)
Oct-21-14  Whitehat1963: And suddenly, Caruana is merely mortal again. Shocking. Or perhaps not.
Oct-21-14  1d410: not Shocking
Oct-21-14  SirRuthless: Very nice game by MVL. Shocking game from Fab. Caruana is on his 35th(?) game in the last 8 weeks or so. He is probably spent and should have considered skipping the GP altogether this cycle as he clearly doesn't need it.
Oct-21-14  FairyPromotion: <MarkFinan: Where are all the people who were comparing this guy to Fischer and Kasparov last month?? All looking for safe places to jump from the derailed bandwagon. I got ridiculed for questioning his character, how are you as good as Fischer yet still lose to this guy with the white pieces!?> I don't want to be rude, but this kind of posts fail to make much sense, and leave an impression that you were hurt from his recent success. Whether Caruana wins this Grand Prix again, has a bad result, or even goes 0/11 will not change the fact that his performance in Sinquefield was one for the ages, and yes <better> than the single best tournament performance of either Fischer or Kasparov. And referring to top 10 players merely as <this guy>? Yet again, Fischer and Kasparov have both lost to weaker opposition, as has pretty much every chess player to ever play top level chess, Caruana himself included. I was never in the bandwagon to begin with, yet I can assure you that if your point is that this kid will continue his slump and never be a threat to Magnus, then soon you'll end up being the one one looking for safe places to jump to avoid the re-railed bandwagon. ;-)
Oct-21-14  coolconundrum: Really excellent game by MVL. Very instructive are the how (and understanding why)he kept all the major pieces in play until he got the endgame situation he wanted, then he liquidated to an easy win.

Very nicely executed.

Oct-21-14  Maatalkko: 33...d5!! was the best move in an excellent game. It's worth two exclamation marks just for the alertness. Even among GMs, a triple en prise move like this usually ends up as a computer's footnote on how Black might have won a drawn game.

Or, perhaps 32...Rc8!! actually deserves the praise, because I am guessing that MVL's hidden intention for this natural move was 33. Rg2 d5 34. Rxe5 Qe1+ 35. Ka2 Qe6 36. Rc2 Bxg5, winning a pawn.

Oct-21-14  messachess: Yes, MVL is very very good, a former prodigy I think. The story (correct me if I'm wrong) is one of a guy who didn't go all out for chess from the start but took time to get a math degree before resuming full time.

His results have been uneven, but in my opinion, he is potentially as astute an end game player as Carlsen.

Oct-21-14  messachess: The test for Caruana vis-a-vis Carlsen is how and whether he can bounce back strongly. Carlsen often starts so-so or even bad and comes on strong to the end and wins.
Oct-21-14  sevenseaman: VLG's decision to offer the 'd' P at move 33...d5 (and precede the capture of the important 'g' P) is a tactical masterstroke.

In my view thereafter he has played in total control of the game.

Oct-22-14  dehanne: My reaction to the game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiZN...

Oct-22-14  OneArmedScissor: <MarkFinan: Where are all the people who were comparing this guy to Fischer and Kasparov last month?? All looking for safe places to jump from the derailed bandwagon. I got ridiculed for questioning his character, how are you as good as Fischer yet still lose to this guy with the white pieces!?>

MLV is a modern day Tal.

Oct-22-14  a30seclegend: <dehanne> ROFL!!! Your post singlehandedly made my day.
Oct-22-14  Pulo y Gata: <Oct-22-14 a30seclegend: <dehanne> ROFL!!! Your post singlehandedly made my day.>

Ditto. lol!

Oct-23-14
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  PawnSac: < a30seclegend: <dehanne> ROFL!!! Your post singlehandedly made my day. >

fer sure! it was classic! hehehhe

Oct-23-14  Zappa XP: Without deviation, progress is not possible.
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