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Viswanathan Anand vs Magnus Carlsen
Carlsen - Anand World Championship Match (2014), Sochi RUS, rd 5, Nov-14
Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation. General (E15)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Nov-14-14
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  HeMateMe: The bio I read also claims that he tried to seduce the wives of other chess players and steal money from their homes.

I'm willing to try all of that, if it will make me a better chess player.

Nov-14-14
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  keypusher: <HeMateMe: The bio I read also claims that he tried to seduce the wives of other chess players and steal money from their homes.>

I think you're confusing Alekhine with Hal Chase.

Nov-14-14
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  MissScarlett: Even Alekhine pointed out that Capa was working hard during their match.

<Your dislike of analysis will probably cause the greatest astonishment in Buenos Aires itself, where all through the match the local press drew special attention to your chess work outside of the play.

Here are a few examples.

I. After the adjournment of the eleventh game you stayed behind in the club and asking to be left alone in a separate room, analyzed for two hours the adjourned position. (Critica, of 9 October 1927.)

II. Coming to the club in order to continue the adjourned twenty-second game, you retired to a room next to the one in which the match was being played, and while your clock was going, with the authorization of the judge of the match, Dr. Querencio (your friend, in whose house you stayed during the match), you analyzed the adjourned position. (Critica, of 1 November 1927).>

Nov-14-14  Caissanist: Capablanca reportedly suffered from high blood pressure all his life (something which he apparently inherited from his parents, and passed on to his son). However, in an interview he gave in 1939, he claims not to have noticed that having an effect on his play until 1936: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... (English translation) http://chessdishblog.blogspot.com/2... (Spanish original)
Nov-14-14
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  keypusher: <MissScarlett: Even Alekhine pointed out that Capa was working hard during their match.>

What do you mean, "even Alekhine"? Do you suppose Alekhine would have wanted to give credence to the notion that his opponent was playing chess between bouts of carousing and cards?

Nov-14-14  Everett: <HeMateMe: The bio I read also claims that he tried to seduce the wives of other chess players and steal money from their homes.

I'm willing to try all of that, if it will make me a better chess player.>

Really? Are male chess-players that meek?

Nov-14-14
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  Sally Simpson: Ah Good, I've been waiting for them to post the game this way so I lift a position with the b8 square.

Anand to play.


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26.Kg2 screams out to be played. Instead Anand put the draw in his back pocket and nicked the a7 pawn.

What is it that Anand saw (or perhaps thought he saw?)

After 26.Kg2 does Carlsen just play 26...a6 and murky it up. 27.Bxf7 Nc6 and I'm getting all in a muddle trying to get a solid White plus. How does it go after 26...a6 and Nc6 which hits the e7 Rook, holds d8 and a7. I'm in blunderland here I cannot see a shot (except Black has 2 v 1 on the Queenside at the endi of it.)

So instead of Kg2 it went to here here. Anand to play.


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Maybe the idea was to trap or make a fool of the Black Knight. But here I'm thinking instead of taking the b6 pawn (it's not going to run away). 30.Bh5 ties the Rook to f8 and stops Kg6.

Then nick the b6 pawn with the Rook and go back to the 7th rank. The White King can pop out carve the players initials on the centre of the board. Probaly not enough to win here (no other pawns on the queenside.) but if Carlsen was white then this is grind territory.

Anand grabbed the a7 pawn to save energy for the next two gruelling encounters where he is Black in both games. Yes?

Nov-14-14  sreeskamp: Is it true that Alekhine 'refused' Capablanca a return match in his fear of being crushed by a Capablanca in better fysical shape?!
Nov-14-14
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  diceman: <TheFocus: <RubinSteinitz> < I read that Alekhine, after losing his World Championship, stopped smoking and drinking and got himself prepared to win his title back and he did.>

This is true. That year, because of his extreme hard work and training, he also won the Mr. Universe bodybuilding contest, the Iditarod, and a blue ribbon at the county fair for his heirloom tomatoes.>

...don't forget the Tour de France.
(only a few minor doping allegations)

Nov-14-14
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  keypusher: <Sally Simpson>

If 26.Kg2 why doesn't Carlsen play 26...Nc6 as in the game? What am I missing?

Nov-14-14
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  diceman: <Sally Simpson: Anand grabbed the a7 pawn to save energy for the next two gruelling encounters where he is Black in both games.>

Why are they giving the same color twice?

Nov-14-14
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  MissScarlett: I mean Alekhine was usually loathe to speak in Capa's defence.
Nov-14-14
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  whiteshark: <Anticlimax! <Carlsen-Anand Game 5 video recap>> https://chess24.com/en/read/news/an...
Nov-14-14
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  keypusher: <MissScarlett: I mean Alekhine was usually loathe to speak in Capa's defence.>

I haven't read your source, but you appear to be quoting Alekhine addressing Capablanca directly and twitting him for claiming not to have been analyzing seriously in Buenos Aires. I am at a loss to understand how that constitutes <speaking in Capa's defence>.

Nov-14-14
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  MissScarlett: Yes, he was having a pop at Capa, but I was quoting him in Capa's defence. Irony, my dear boy, irony.
Nov-14-14  Caissanist: <sreeskamp>: Alekhine refused to play Capablanca for less than the $10,000 purse which he himself had had to provide for their 1927 match, a sum which Capablanca was never able to raise. He did, however, agree to defend his title against others for smaller stakes. He also refused to play in any tournament with Capablanca in it unless he was given a higher appearance fee ($2,000 extra for San Remo 1930).

Different people have different opinions as to whether this amounts to him "refusing" Capablanca a return match.

Nov-14-14
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  Sally Simpson: He Keypusher.

On move 26 Anand took the a7 pawn instead of playing the good looking 26.Kg2 which stops the d1 Rook from falling with a check so Bxf7 is a threat.


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I was thinking 26.Kg2 Nc6 27.Rc7 the Knight can go to e5 by the comes f4.....(and then Ng5 and e3 hangs. Messy.)

Nov-14-14
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  keypusher: <Sally Simpson>

Thanks. I didn't see that after 26.Kg2 Nc6 27.Rc7, 27....Nb4 allows 28.Bxf7.

Nov-14-14  ajile: Tough to get an advantage against this super solid QID opening. But I like the 4..Ba6 line better because it makes White's DSB development awkward after 5.b3 Bb4+ 6.Bd2 Be7.
Nov-14-14  kia0708: Thanks Whiteshark, excellent video !!

<Anticlimax! Carlsen-Anand Game 5 video recap https://chess24.com/en/read/news/an... >

Nov-14-14  RookFile: 31. Bf3 was definitely an odd choice from Anand. It seems like his focus was to steer the game safely to a draw.


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But surely either 31. Bh5 or 31. Bb3 is more natural, with the idea of Rb7?

If you just take 31. Bb3 for example, how can white possibly lose this? His bishop is a protected piece. Meanwhile black has to be mildly concerned about protecting f7.

I guess Anand figured it was a draw anyway, but the way he went about it was a little odd.

Nov-14-14  RookFile: Maybe he hoped to corral the knight, but Carlsen had ...f5 and ...Ne4.
Nov-14-14
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  Penguincw: Analysis of this game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdMc....
Nov-14-14  caissafan1963: 12.Bf4 or Bg5 considered better moves than cxd5.
Nov-14-14  RookFile: As was pointed out, after 31. Bf3, even if when Carlsen plays ....f5, white were to play Bxe4 and Rxe4 (his best case scenario), the game is still a dead draw with rook and 3 pawns vs. rook and two on the same side of the board.
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