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Magnus Carlsen vs Wesley So
Tata Steel Masters (2015), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 2, Jan-11
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Reshevsky Variation (E46)  ·  1/2-1/2



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  Domdaniel: Carlsen has tested the waters, and found (unsurprisingly!) that So will take a draw by repetition. But White may now deviate, just to keep playing ... as he does.
Jan-11-15  Marmot PFL: I would not try anything here, even if I am WC, not much to be gained.
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  Domdaniel: If 33.Ng4 Qc2 34.Qf3 bxa4 35.bxa4 Qxa4, and Black is fine. White can't really play 35.Re7, as Black can defend while picking off a pawn, with ...Qxb3. And otherwise ...Rf8 defends the King.

I can't see any real opportunities for White here ... but Carlsen could still elect to play on, just in case opportunities turn up down the line.

Jan-11-15  Marmot PFL: 33 ab5 cb5 34 d5 is a try but not easy to evaluate
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  perfidious: <kellmano: It looks to me that unless White has something concrete, then Black is better.>

Black appears to have the chances here, in my opinion--the IQP does not even confer Carlsen any dynamic possibilities.

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  Domdaniel: So's 28...b5 was a very useful move -- combining aggression against White's queenside with the defensive possibilities opened up by clearing the 7th rank and depriving White of possible targets. Impressively clear-sighted.
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  Domdaniel: That's repetition, no?
Jan-11-15  boz: Marmot PFL: 33 ab5 cb5 34 d5 is a try but not easy to evaluate>

Looks double-edged as Black would get an outside passer with a rook behind it.

Jan-11-15  chessdgc2: perfidious: I agree...if I could take over for one of the players here, I'd choose to take over for Black. White's position is too stale and lacking in promise...I'm not sure how much Black's has, but it's a little more playable...the game seems drawn
Jan-11-15  boz: Draw. That was so-so.
Jan-11-15  Marmot PFL: The younger challengers (Giri, So, Caruana, MVL) are doing well so far.
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  whiteshark: Kind of a palpation of the prostate gland through the rectum game
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  Domdaniel: <boz> I think the technical term for 'an outside passer with a Rook behind it' is <a win>.

But a draw is a fair result. So always seemed comfortable ... I'm reminded of a Nimzo-Indian that Nigel Short drew against Kasparov in their WC match.

Jan-11-15  kellmano: <DomDaniel> I remember the game you are talking about, and next time Short wheeled out the line he got murdered.
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  AylerKupp: <<Domdaniel> I think the technical term for 'an outside passer with a Rook behind it' is <a win>.>

True, assuming that there are no opponent's pieces blocking it. But there is no outside passer in this position, and there won't be one unless Carlsen were to play axb5. And why would Carlsen give So the potential for an outside passer and remove So's potentially weak backwards c-pawn? Carlsen's passed but IQP would not likely be enough compensation.

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  whiteshark: Quite an illuminating post mortem analysis by Wesley (with Seirawan).
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  tamar: So showed excellent calculation even in variations he eventually did not choose. Instead of 28...b5 the computers first choice was 28...Rad8 putting pressure on d4.

So correctly saw that White answers 29 Nc4 Rxe3 30 Rxe3 b5 31 Re5 Qd7 32 axb5 axb5 33 Nxa5 Qxd4? 34 Re8+

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However if Black does not play 33...Qxd4 it is still about even.

Wesley said to Yasser that he has learned that chess is about 95% calculation.

Jan-11-15  kellmano: <whitehsark> yes it was interesting. He was obviously very happy to have drawn. Seemed like a good lad.
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  chancho: Wes has the potential to go a long way.

Looking forward to seeing him in future elite tournaments.

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  Sokrates: So Carlsen is a pampered goldfish after all! :-))
Jan-11-15  Ulhumbrus: 28...b5 gains a backward c pawn which compensates White for his isolated d pawn. Instead of this 28...Rd8 seems better for Black
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  perfidious: <Sokrates> carlsen had best watch out for them barrycudies--they bite!!
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  tpstar: I wonder if they called each other.

<Kind of a palpation of the prostate gland through the rectum game> Do tell.

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  thegoodanarchist: <Sokrates: So Carlsen is a pampered goldfish after all! :-))>

His bowl is filled with champagne, not water?

Jan-12-15  visayanbraindoctor: GM So's historical first game with a World Champion. Solid play, even Carlsen could not squeeze anything out of it, and I liked So's position more than Carlsen's after 16. Nd3 Bf5.

So actually has a style similar to Carlsen's. Now with professional trainers and seconds behind him, it's just a matter of time before he gets into the Candidates.

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