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Radoslaw Wojtaszek vs Magnus Carlsen
Tata Steel Masters (2015), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 3, Jan-12
Rat Defense: See also: Modern Defense (for lines with ...g6) (A41)  ·  1-0

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Jan-12-15  310metaltrader: queen to e6 was just a howler, right? I was watching the game on chessbomb, and saw the move, and was like wait, the bishop has no squares. then there were all these trades, and MC lost the piece anyways?
Jan-12-15  SirRuthless: The 40th move from white, Qf4 was a real gem. It kills the bulk of blacks counterplay by forcing the exchange of queens and brings the game to a close. To find that move under the extraordinary pressure Wojtaszek must have felt with only a minute on the clock before the time control was classy. That being said I feel sorry for whoever has to play Carlsen tomorrow.
Jan-12-15
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  Gilmoy: <310metaltrader: queen to e6 was just a howler, right?> Well, it seems that the plan of <5..a5 6..a4 12..a3> was already wrong when the simple <14.Rb1 17.Rb3> won that pawn for nothing. Thereafter, Black is probably swindling for a draw.

Seeking complications is maybe a braver way to lose than just getting ground down. <28..Qe6> can't be judged a simple blunder without context because you can see that Carlsen already envisioned the position at <35..Qf6>. It's all part of the same combo, and just the price of the swindle.

Wojtaszek saw it, too, and defended perfectly: <36.Qd3> flight square <whoops, watch the Nf2 fork> and sees-Ng3 but creates weak back rank, <37.Rb1> defends that, and he'll happily drop his a-pawn threat to pocket the piece instead.

Sometimes the correct way to refute a swindle is to accept the material and demonstrate the defense.

Jan-12-15  Ulhumbrus: If the purpose of 5...a5 is to weaken White's c5 square by displacing White's b4 pawn this suggests that Black is advised to combine the move ...a5 with the pawn advance ...e5 so as to diaplace the other White pawn covering c5, namely, White's d4 pawn.

Otherwise with White's d4 pawn still covering c5 Black's knights cannot occupy the c5 square.

Jan-12-15
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  HeMateMe: looks like white will win the h pawn and black will slowly be ground down.
Jan-12-15  310metaltrader: I did not see that there was a potential mate - leaving a king in the center was pretty cheeky of the pole.
Jan-12-15  ajile: Looks like Carlsen was bored and wanted to play something interesting. Like the Leningrad Dutch.
Jan-12-15  Marmot PFL: This looks bit like a Bent Larsen game with both rook pawns advancing.

White handles it well and looks way better even before 28...Qe6. Probably this was played just to lure white into weakening the king position, rather than having to defend a bad game with a pawn less.

Jan-12-15  varishnakov: Carlsen got too cute in the opening?
Jan-12-15
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  Domdaniel: <Gilmoy> -- <Sometimes the correct way to refute a swindle is to accept the material and demonstrate the defense.>

An excellent point about Carlsen's predicament and his subsequent strategy. I didn't see it as an out-and-out blunder either.

Jan-12-15
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  Penguincw: I predict that in the next matchup between these 2, the player with white will win...
Jan-12-15  waustad: Maybe Carlsen was looking for a line they hadn't analyzed together.
Jan-12-15  Fanques Fair: 14-..., Ne4 was unnecessary. He should have played 14-..., e5 was really better.

Of course 28-..., Qe6 was a blunder that loses a piece. But Black´s position was not very pleasant .

Jan-12-15
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  chancho: Magnus is at the top of the heap, but it seems he has gotten lazy since becoming Champ.

Rated number one for a good number of years, but now there are players working hard to overtake him, and they are closing in!

He needs Gazza's fanatical capacity for hard work.

If he could manage that, then he would be an even more formidable force.

Less Donald Duck comics, and more work, Maggie!

Jan-12-15
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  HeMateMe: You get the idea that the game comes so easy for him that he doesn't have to work that hard, he can just turn on the jets when he has to defend his title.

Maybe his strategy is best? Those who obsess over work often burn out early.

Jan-12-15
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  chancho: <HeMateMe> Not necessarily.

Look at Gazza.

Champ for 15 years.

First to break 2800.

A Talented player who worked very hard.

Hard work AND talent will beat talent.

Fabiano Caruana when asked about his success of late, says hard work.

Jan-12-15  stst: agreed hard work:talent about 30:70 or 40:60 ratio, that's why Alekhine beat Capa.

Capa roughly got the hard work: talent ratio as 10:90? where Alekhine definitely work the hard work part much bigger!!

Now see that Magnus got the hard work part down to about 20~30, not enough to maintain the superiority

We all like talents, but, alas, human being could not be 100% talent only!!

Jan-12-15  stst: the unsupported push of the a and h pawns not only waste time, they led to nothing, other than simply loss of the pawn.

not sure why didn't take the tempi of PxP+, KxP followed by QxP+

then somehow lost the exchange and got only N vs White's N & B, the game was already lost... not to any part brilliant in White's part, but only Black's own lack of advance planning and fore-sight.....

just my 2c

Jan-12-15  mistreaver: Guys this is just one game, to my mind Wojtaszek played perfectly, probably because he went into the game without expectations, whereas yesterday against Van Wely he was completely whitewashed but got lucky and escaped with a draw... Everyone can have a good or a bad day, even the World Champion.
Jan-12-15
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  Gypsy: About the most underwhelming play from MC I have seen to-date.
Jan-12-15
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  Domdaniel: <chancho> -- <He needs Gazza's fanatical capacity for hard work. If he could manage that, then he would be an even more formidable force.>

Heh. I can just imagine, if the InterWeb had been around in the 1920s, people saying "Oh, Capablanca needs to work harder, like Alekhine" ...

Jan-13-15  kia0708: Bravo Wojtaszek !
Jan-13-15  latvalatvian: Carlsen was just fooling around. He wants people on this site to make criticisms so he can laugh his head off. A person's motives at this level are unfathomable.
Jan-14-15
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  patzer2: Carlsen's sacrfice of the Bishop with 28...Qe6?? 29. g4 seems to be an attempt to solve a bad position with complications and tactics.

Black's position is not so pleasant after the computer "best move" alternative 28...cxd4, when Black is reduced to passive resistance trying to stop White's strong passed a-pawn.

Fritz 12 indicates White secures a lasting initiative after 28...cxd4 29. Bxd4 to when play might continue 28... cxd4 29. Bxd4 Kh7 30. Rb4 Bd7 31. Bxg7 Kxg7 32. Nb3 Be6 33. a5 Kh6 34. Ra4 Bd7 35. Ra2 Be6 36. Nd2 Ra6 37. Qa1 Bg4 38. Bf1 Qa8 39. Ra4 Bd7 40. Ra3 Be6 41. Be2 Qc8 42. Qd4 Qa8 43. Bf1 Kh7 44. Qc3 Ra7 45. Be2 Qc8 46. Kf1 Qa8 47. Ke1 Bf7 48. Ra1 Kg8 49. Qb4 Ne6 50. f3 exf3 51. Bxf3 Qd8 52. Ke2 Nc5 53. Ne4 Nd7 54. Ng5 Ne5 55. Nxf7 Kxf7 56. Bb7 (+1.66 @ 20 depth).

Jan-14-15
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  patzer2: Had White not seen that 35. Ke1! is the only move to secure the win, Black could have pulled off his swindle with 28...Qe6??
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