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Arkadij Naiditsch vs Magnus Carlsen
GRENKE Chess Classic (2015), Baden-Baden GER, rd 3, Feb-04
Modern Defense: Standard Defense (B06)  ·  1-0

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Feb-04-15
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  MissScarlett: Caissa will not be mocked.
Feb-04-15
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  whiteshark: Any suggestions for improvements?
Feb-04-15  SirRuthless: Not playing the Modern defense vs Naiditsch would be an improvement.
Feb-04-15
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  tamar: Last chance for a swindle was 55...Rb7 56 Rb3 Rg7 and for example 57 Bd3 e4 58 Bxe4 g3 59 fxg3 fxg3 60 Kg1 Ke5 61 Ba8 Ra7


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Still looks tricky after 62 Rb5+ Kd4, but it looks like Black can alternate between threatening the bishop, threatening mate and threatening the a pawn the rest of the way.

There are also the 56 Rd6+ lines, but in any case 55...Rb7 was much superior to 55...Rc7 as Black lost the threat of queening the g pawn supported by the rook which allows the win of the a pawn in many cases.

Feb-04-15  kia0708: Congratulations Mr Naiditch !
Feb-04-15  Alblitz: Naiditsches and burns :-)
Feb-04-15  latvalatvian: 1...g6 is the greatest opening since the dinosaurs. The result means nothing.
Feb-04-15  pinoy king: Carlsen got merked in the endgame by Naitsch AGAIN
Feb-04-15  Kinghunt: Not sacking a piece for two pawns on move 10 would be an improvement. The engines say Carlsen recovered from that, but his position remained very difficult to play.
Feb-04-15  pinoy king: Carlsen's so called endgame prowess was once again debunked.
Feb-04-15  beenthere240: ALL of the engines recommended 19... Rfb8, MC's lemon Rf7 allowed Rb3 and the tide turned. But it was a really arrogant pawn sac.
Feb-04-15  watwinc: When I looked at the live broadcast they were analysing after 17 Nc3, decided that 19 Rxb7 would be met by Rc8, which they thought would be very difficult for White. Anybody know what was wrong with Rc8 for Black?
Feb-04-15  latvalatvian: Carlsen should have made some more sacrifices to confuse N. I like to sac my queen for say a pawn and my opponent often loses on time.
Feb-04-15
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  tamar: Naiditsch said Carlsen mentioned 19...Rb8 after the game, but was unsure about 20 Rxg7+

Naiditsch appeared to have studied the game with a computer just before the interview session, because he had come to the conclusion that 19...Rb8 solved Black's problems, and he should have played 19 Rb3 instead of taking the pawn.

Feb-04-15
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  Penguincw: Carlsen was +5,=7 against Naiditsch heading into 2014, but has since lost the last 2 meetings.
Feb-04-15
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  tamar: <watwinc: When I looked at the live broadcast they were analysing after 17 Nc3, decided that 19 Rxb7 would be met by Rc8, which they thought would be very difficult for White. Anybody know what was wrong with Rc8 for Black?>

The rook sacrifice on g7 is probably the reason, otherwise White has trouble.

after 19...Rc8

20 Bxf5 gxf5 21 Nb1 Qxa4 22 Rxg7+ looks strong

Feb-04-15
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  plang: <beenthere240: ALL of the engines recommended 19... Rfb8, MC's lemon Rf7 allowed Rb3 and the tide turned. But it was a really arrogant pawn sac.>

Yes, but Naiditsch was outplayed near the end of the time control and had lost most of his advantage. He only won the game later on in the endgame (somewhere between move 40 and 50 I assume)

Feb-04-15  beenthere240: It was a very exiting game at any rate.
Feb-04-15  Sally Simpson: Quite an entertaining, refreshing and straight off the cuff game.

Not often one sees the current World Champion spec-saccing just for the sheer hell of it.

Such unexpected play can put the opponent under pressure.

They now have to play for the win and none of this safe 'keep the draw in the back pocket' play.

At some point in the game the winning player will hit a problem, and Carlsen kept enough in the tank to create problems.

The player starts seeing ghosts and unsettling thoughts akin to "I'll look such a fool for not winning this." will enter their mind and their play becomes doubtful and slightly off key.

If you have ever lost a won position against a player who is better than you, then something like this is what has happened to you.

Naiditsch came through this well though it did look like Carlsen had crept back into the game. The fact he has a recent win over Carlsen under his belt helped him keep his head whilst Carlsen chased a win that was not there and lost.

Good Game.

Feb-04-15  gokusano: Exiting game? Where could they've exited, just in case?
Feb-04-15
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  HeMateMe: I sometimes think MC is just toying with the field, and he'll try something unproven in the openings. well done GM Naiditsch, but Magnus is still the gold standard.
Feb-04-15  Severin: Carlsen really needs to stop playing the modern defense. He seems to never win with it.
Feb-04-15
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  Pulo y Gata: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...

The last time that Magnus beat Naiditsch was in 2009?

Lost in Carlsen vs Naiditsch, 2014 and now.

Hmn.

Feb-04-15
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  Pulo y Gata: And now looking at the game, this is coffeehouse chess. LOL.
Feb-04-15  TangoJoseph: WOW , wild game :) both played excellent ,
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