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Fabiano Caruana vs Magnus Carlsen
GRENKE Chess Classic (2015), Baden-Baden GER, rd 6, Feb-08
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Feb-08-15  chesssantosh: If 24.Kg4 then 24...Nh3 would create some mating net. White has to give back material and he will be two pawns down.
Feb-08-15  bbking689: It's a draw
Feb-08-15  Nizman: <Nizman: Guyz please how do I download a any chess engine on my blackberry???????? Help me please :(> Try downloading the Analyze This (free) app. <Thanks a lot breaker give me the link please
Feb-08-15
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  An Englishman: Good Afternoon: After spending all that time thinking, Caruana had to take the draw. As long as it continues to produce half points for Black on a fairly reliable basis (unless Carlsen plays White!), The Berlin Wall won't go away time soon, drat it all.
Feb-08-15  YouRang: Pfft.
Feb-08-15  breaker90: <Nizman: <Nizman: Guyz please how do I download a any chess engine on my blackberry???????? Help me please :(> Try downloading the Analyze This (free) app. <Thanks a lot breaker give me the link please> I believe you can look it up on your app store
Feb-08-15  YouRang: I wonder if Carlsen should have declined the draw? It seems like white had some credible opportunities to drift into trouble.
Feb-08-15  mainulo: don't think there is much else he can do other than take the draw <YouRang>. otherwise, he is down a piece for two pawns and his pieces aren't really that well placed and his king is not castled. draw seems like the only fair outcome
Feb-08-15
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  keypusher: <YouRang: I wonder if Carlsen should have declined the draw? It seems like white had some credible opportunities to drift into trouble.>

I think the clock here was wrong. Fab had more time than shown here.

Feb-08-15  Marmot PFL: Caruana's over-impulsive 16 g4!? allows Carlsen to create instant counterplay with h5. Better luck next time.
Feb-08-15
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  patfoley: Whites K shuttles between f4 and e4. The best M gets is perpetual.
Feb-08-15  parmetd: 16. g4 seems fine. 21. h4 seems off.
Feb-08-15  MarkFinan: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...

The Analyze this, app. It's rubbish compared to Droidfish though.

Feb-08-15  MarkFinan: Who was it who said they didn't think Caruana would go for a quick draw?? Move 8 queen exchanged on d8, over by 23 moves !?! No one is gonna play for a win against Carlsen in a tournament like this, a draw will do. It's like Fischer's era, he's just out in front and the rest are playing catch up.
Feb-08-15  Marmot PFL: The rook on the h-file combined with bishop on long diagonal could have caused white some problems, so probably white was right to take the draw.
Feb-08-15  Absentee: <MarkFinan: Who was it who said they didn't think Caruana would go for a quick draw?? Move 8 queen exchanged on d8>

The Queen exchange is theory.

Feb-08-15  YouRang: <mainulo: don't think there is much else he can do other than take the draw <YouRang>. otherwise, he is down a piece for two pawns and his pieces aren't really that well placed and his king is not castled. draw seems like the only fair outcome>

Well, white could very credibly have continued 24.Kg4, for which the most likely continuation would be: 24...Nh3 25.e6 Bxe6 26.Nf4 g6 27.Nxe6 gxf5+ 28.Kxf5 fxe6+ 29.Kxe6 Rh6+ 30.Kd5


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...and black has regained the piece a pawn to the good, and will soon have 2 active rooks. Black is at least better.

Feb-08-15  YouRang: On the other hand, the probably agreed to the draw because both saw that the best continuation after 24.Kf4 was a perp: 24....Nh3+ 25.Ke4 Ng6+ 26.Kf4 Nh3+...
Feb-08-15  mainulo: <yourang> agreed, white cannot try Kg4. White had to give in to the repetition. but if carlsen tried to avoid it, then caruana can march his king to safety and then play for the win. so the draw was a forced result for both sides.
Feb-08-15  Cooleyhigh: Good to see Magnus Carlsen playing the Ruy Lopez again against Fabiano Caruana.
Feb-08-15
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  beenthere240: Interesting drawing combination. Carina can turn it down and lose the game.
Feb-08-15
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  patzer2: Interesting drawing combination indeed! Carlsen's 20...Bg5! is the strongest move available, deliberately sacrificing a piece to force a draw:

<20... Bg5! 21. h4 hxg4! 22. hxg5 gxf3+ 23. Kxf3 Nxg5+ 24. Kf4>

If 24. Kg4, then 24...Nh3! 25. e6 (not 25. Rh1? g6 26. Rxh3 Bxf5+ 27. Kf3 Bxh3 ) 25... Bxe6 26. Nf4 g6 27. Nxe6 gxf5+ 28. Kxf5 fxe6+ 29. Kg4 Ke7 30. Bh4+ Rxh4+ 31. Kxh4 Nf4 = to unclear in an unbalanced position.

If 24. Ke3??, then 24...Bxf5 .

If 24. Kf2??, then 24...Bxf5 .

<24... Nh3+ 25. Ke4 Ng5+ 26. Kf4 Nh3+ => Draw agreed as it's a forced three fold repetition after 27. Ke4 Ng5+ 28. Kf4 =.

Feb-08-15  Nf8: <Carlsen's 20...Bg5! is the strongest move available, deliberately sacrificing a piece to force a draw>

At this stage it seems that White is the one who wants most to force the draw; perhaps Black is already the one who could have tried to play for an advantage by exchanging on g4 first (20...hxg4! 21.hxg4 Bg5; e.g., 22.f4 Ba6!).

Feb-08-15
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  patzer2: <Nf8> After 20...hxg4 21. hxg4 Bg5, seems to me it's level after 22. Rh1! without much play for advantage by either side.

Of course this might be the kind of "level positions" Carlsen, when he's in the mood, likes to exploit. Maybe he wanted to hurry the draw with the Black pieces and give himself more rest for the next game.

Feb-11-15
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  cro777: Reversing the rules of the opening ("Complete your development before moving a piece twice)"

In the theoretical duel with Caruana in the Berlin Defense, Carlsen played eight times (!) with his king's knight during the first 17 moves. Then he drew comfortably by sacrificing the other developed piece (the bishop on g5).

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 <Nf6> 4.0–0 <Nxe4> 5.d4 <Nd6> 6.Bxc6 dxc6 7.dxe5 <Nf5> 8.Qxd8+ Kxd8 9.h3 h6 10.Rd1+ Ke8 11.Nc3 <Ne7> 12.Bf4 <Ng6> 13.Bh2 Bb4 14.Ne2 Be7 15.Nfd4 <Nf8> 16.g4 h5 17.Nf5 <Ne6>


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Carlsen: "I felt I should be in time with my stuff and Black should be absolutely fine."

18. Kg2 b6 19. f3 c5 20. Bg3 Bg5 21. h4


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21…hg4! Piece sacrifice forces a draw.

Carlsen: "I thought I stood better, but then I chose the lazy solution, which was a forced draw."

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