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Viswanathan Anand vs Magnus Carlsen
Gashimov Memorial (2015), Shamkir AZE, rd 1, Apr-17
Spanish Game: Marshall Attack. Modern Variation (C89)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Apr-17-15
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  maxi: I don't know if White has enough for a win after 20.Nd5, but there are many dangers for Black.
Apr-17-15
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  keypusher: <Marmot PFL: Carlsen didn't use enough time on move 19 and must have overlooked 20 Nd5. Otherwise it looks line an easy draw....>

Bingo. This is not an appropriate game to praise Carlsen's time management skills.

<SirRuthless: Magnus snakes his way out of another tough position. Anand needs to win his games in the opening or middlegame because he doesn't have the energy to grind out long endgame results anymore. I re-iterate that Carlsen is not the same player he was two years ago. He has been getting by on popsicle sticks and tin foil for quite some time. Who can break the facade?>

Carlsen was getting into trouble, and generally getting out of it, two years ago as well. I think he's continuing to evolve creatively. I looked recently at his 9 wins from Grenke and Tata and saw only one "Carlsen grind", against Adams. He has played some wonderful attacks. Of course, we'll see how it goes here...

Apr-17-15  anandrulez: Theey were talking about 26.Nb4 as winning move. But I don't see how it could win? It just transposes to a 3-2 pawn on the Kingside and a routine draw right?
Apr-17-15  jphamlore: <keypusher: I looked recently at his 9 wins from Grenke and Tata and saw only one "Carlsen grind", against Adams. He has played some wonderful attacks. Of course, we'll see how it goes here...>

Like I said in this forum, anyone looking at Carlsen's recent wins would think he's playing more like a modern Alekhine on the attack. Carlsen is definitely trying to turn every so-called weakness of his game into a strength while he still can at the age of a young Kasparov just starting his era of world championship domination.

Apr-17-15  1d410: There is controversy over this result, but the truth is most games between these players are draws.
Apr-17-15  jphamlore: <1d410: There is controversy over this result, but the truth is most games between these players are draws.>

I would estimate that a high percentage of Carlsen's games there is controversy over whether he stole a half-point or more. :-)

Apr-17-15
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  chancho: <Magnus Carlsen @MagnusCarlsen 7h 7 hours ago Tactical exercises for a couple of hours y'day did not prevent me from falling for a simple trick. Lucky to make a draw #Anand #Shamkir2015>
Apr-17-15  MagnusVerMagnus: What is this Anand must win in less than 20 moves or his brain gets donated to Science. These are not infinite time controls like when Morphy played, or rather his opponent, but very short relatively. Anand is not 50 years old (is he?) and I assume MC is just that damn good, stop criticizing Anand, a ALL-Time great and accept that he has been surpassed, no shame in that.
Apr-17-15  Ulhumbrus: Perhaps after a point White's advantage was considerable but not quite enough to win.

Black has one asset of his own: Black's b3 pawn may become dangerous if after 35...h6 White tries something like f4 and g5.

One idea earlier which seems worth taking a look at is 32 f4 instead of 32 h5, pushing the unopposed f pawn

Apr-18-15  Ulhumbrus: Carlsen said of the position after 25...Re8 <Its not pleasant to get such a bad position, and if hed played 26.Nb4 the game would have had a different result.> If Carlsen is right Anand either missed this fork or else declined it mistakenly
Apr-18-15  Howard: So, apparently Anand didn't miss a relatively forced win--verdad ?
Apr-18-15  latvalatvian: Anand has not been surpassed. His taking back the title is only a matter of a few years at most. He understands stands chess better than all the grandmasters in the world combined.
Apr-18-15
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  maxi: <Howard> I looked over the position after 26.Nb4 using Houdini 4x64 and the result is not clear. White has a substantial advantage of half a Pawn, but it is one of those endgames that in practice are often a draw. Anand's move 26.Ne3 seems not to be inferior, yet it led to a draw. It is all very borderline.
Apr-19-15  Ulhumbrus: A look at the computer analysis on the official site suggests that Anand did not make his extra pawn on the king side count in the right way.

The general rule is to push the pawn which is unopposed. In the present case that means the f pawn.

Thus 31 f4 is better than 31 g4 and 32 f4 is better than 32 h5

Apr-20-15  chaturangavallabha: Wow. Prime Anand minus steam at late mid/early end game. You have lost the stamina Anand, you cant win games like Carlsen without that. Look at you, outplaying Carlsen all the way and then losing steam.

At 45, non one kicks tail feathers like Anand does. It doesnt matter if its an old lion or these young punks, he demolishes them all -- until the late middle game that is.

Apr-23-15  abadravi: Stop commenting on coffee, sleep and morning. These nonsense comments filled useless 6 pages.😡
Apr-23-15  TheFocus: <abadravi> Good morning. It sounds like you need some sleep or some coffee.

I get cranky when I don't have my morning coffee too.

Apr-25-15  RookFile: Anand was close to winning this game.
May-02-15  Tal1949: I do not think so Mr Rook. Anand has plenty of leads in his games against Carlsen, but is almost never able to break through against him. Carlsen had an inferior position here but was never in danger of losing. His defensive skills are superb.
May-02-15  MagnusVerMagnus: <Rookfile> Close???? LMAO ...cash your lottery ticket then. You do not beat MC until you beat him, and Anand will probably NEVER beat him again! Stuff that up your "pipe" and enjoy it..
May-03-15  MagnusVerMagnus: and Anand begged for the draw at the end not Magnus , he would have won probably if the game continued lmsao
May-03-15  mkrk17: <jphamlore:
Best talent + best training = world champion.
>

In fact rumour has it that carlsen begged to get out of that training. kasparov was a opening/complications/tactical player trying to train carlsen in those aspects, while carlsen was everything other than this

May-03-15
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  maxi: <MagnusVerMagnus> "and Anand begged for the draw at the end not Magnus..." He did? In this game?
May-31-15  latvalatvian: Please don't use a computer to analyse this game. Computers can't play chess.
May-31-15
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  perfidious: <latvalatvian: Please don't use a computer to analyse this game....>

Little late to put <that> genie back in the bottle....

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