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Magnus Carlsen vs Shakhriyar Mamedyarov
Gashimov Memorial (2015), Shamkir AZE, rd 2, Apr-18
Slav Defense: Quiet Variation (D11)  ·  1-0

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Apr-18-15  MarkFinan: Carlsen's just on another level. I just want him to play like this in a WCC game. He's played for the championship a few times now and I'm yet to see an exciting game.
Apr-18-15  1971: So simple! Easy breezy.
Apr-18-15  Absentee: <lentil: One gets the impression that Carlsen understands the position, and that his opponent only understands after the game is over.>

That's very fischerian.

Apr-18-15  FairyPromotion: Shak-and-Awe by Carlsen!! Even as a Mamedyarov fan I have to take my hat off for this masterful game.

When I started following chess in late 2011 Magnus was one of my favorites. His wins against Gelfand in Tal '11, Naka in London and Bazna '11, and Anand in Bilbao '12 were total eye candies. While obviously you can't a priori decide how the games will progress, in the last couple of years he was more and more relying on endgame grinds and less on complex middlegames where he was also excelling. He was, in a way, "less fun" than his former self. However this year there is a visible change in his approach, and I'm extremely glad to see "old" Magnus back.

Apr-18-15  johnkr: I don't get why Mamedyarov didn't try 20 ...Bxc4. That's an obvious variation that does win a pawn, although Black does have to give up the 2 bishops. maybe Carlsen knew that his opponent didn't want to cede the 2 Bs?
Apr-18-15  thegoodanarchist: <MarkFinan: Carlsen's just on another level. I just want him to play like this in a WCC game. He's played for the championship a few times now and I'm yet to see an exciting game>

Well, Mamedyarov is no Vishy Anand! To play games like these your opponent must "cooperate" (to use a euphemism for err) to some extent.

Apr-18-15
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  keypusher: <johnkr: I don't get why Mamedyarov didn't try 20 ...Bxc4. That's an obvious variation that does win a pawn, although Black does have to give up the 2 bishops. maybe Carlsen knew that his opponent didn't want to cede the 2 Bs?>

The Stockfish line at chessbomb was 20....Bxc4 21.Rxc4 Rxc4 22.Bxc4 bxa5 23.Ba3 Qf6 24.Bb5 Qc3 25.Bxd7 Qxa3 26.Bxe6 with an advantage for White. The engine seemed to think that 20....Bxc4 and Mamedyarov's 20....bxa5 were pretty much equivalent. It was only at moves 24, 25, and especially 26 where the wheels came completely off for Black.

Apr-18-15  SetNoEscapeOn: The game just seems so effortless. Black couldn't even dream of generating a threat.
Apr-18-15  PaulBl: Isn't black's resignation a bit premature? White's position is better, but you never win or draw by resigning early. Or do I miss a forced win for white?

Kind regards,
Paul

Apr-18-15
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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: <PaulBl>--if black interposes with the rook, Rc7 wins the queen. If the king moves, after Rc7 he will get mated or lose the queen anyway.
Apr-18-15  Everett: <Premium Chessgames MemberApr-18-15 Absentee: <lentil: One gets the impression that Carlsen understands the position, and that his opponent only understands after the game is over.> That's very fischerian.>

Not at all. It is Laskerian, or Karpovian, in that their opponents didn't know where they went wrong. The genius of Fischer and Kasparov was different; their opponents knew what was coming, and <still> couldn't stop it.

Apr-18-15  MindCtrol9: Looks like an easy win.This game gives me the impression that Black did not have any real plan and played this game too passively.To develop the pieces is very important, and this was the main factor in the today's game.
Apr-18-15  The17thPawn: <MarkFinan> - The Nimzo-Indian played in the last game of the first WC Match with Anand wasn't exciting?
Apr-19-15  Sokrates: Very precisely said, <Everett>.
Apr-19-15  RookFile: It doesn't appear that black made a serious threat in the entire game. If you're going to lose, it's better to go down swinging.
Apr-19-15
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  kingscrusher: I have video annotated the game here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3N...

Cheers, K

Apr-19-15  Ed Frank: Incredible. It looks so easy.
Apr-19-15  Everett: <premium
memberApr-19-15 Sokrates: Very precisely said, <Everett>.>

Thank you! And same to many of your posts.

Apr-19-15  WDenayer: Only a genius can produce a game like this. Carlsen is out of this world. He never ceases to amaze me. And then the way he beat Caruana today. Pure genius. But in this game, Carlsen had help. The first interesting move is 8.a4. There are several ways to react to this. In my opinion Mamedyarov played the weakest move. 8. … a5 gives away the b5 square and weakens the b6 pawn. The next poor move is 10. … Ne4? This move is really very bad because there will be no other way to defend the e4 pawn than by playing f5. And that's all that Carlsen needs. After 13. ...f5 he makes it look like the position is already a win for White. One ! move after another. Carlsen takes the Queen side. The King has nowhere to hide – not even on h8. It is just completely over. Wonderful game. But Mamedyarov made two miserable strategic blunders. Today's game was much more interesting. And Carlsen showed his class again.
Apr-19-15  MagnusVerMagnus: He made this other player look like a beginner
Apr-19-15  Dr. Overlord: MagnusVerMagnus makes all the other kibitzers look like grandmasters.
Apr-19-15  MagnusVerMagnus: I like to raise the commentary level to that of my own, thank you.
Apr-23-15  dgm1214: Wow, wish I'd thought of that!
Apr-25-15  morfishine: <MindCtrol9> This gets to the point. Well said

*****

Jun-20-15  Absentee: <Everett: Not at all. It is Laskerian, or Karpovian, in that their opponents didn't know where they went wrong. The genius of Fischer and Kasparov was different; their opponents knew what was coming, and <still> couldn't stop it.>

If you buy that bit of popular wisdom. I find it trite and nonsensical. I was thinking of this quote by Taimanov:

"His moves did not make sense – at least to all the rest of us they didn't. We were playing chess, Fischer was playing something else, call it what you will. Naturally, there would come a time when we finally would understand what those moves had been about. But by then it was too late. We were dead."

And especially another one, which unfortunately I can't find anymore, from one of his friends and colleagues after 1975, about how they played a number of rapid games and he couldn't even get to the endgame, he kept getting crushed in the middlegame without realizing exactly how.

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