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Magnus Carlsen vs Vladimir Kramnik
"Carma" (game of the day Feb-04-2016)
Gashimov Memorial (2015), Shamkir AZE, rd 7, Apr-24
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense (C65)  ·  1-0



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Apr-25-15  abadravi: Can anybody crack CARSEN this year??📢📢📢
Apr-25-15  pinoy king: Yes? Naiditsch slaughtered his favorite client, Magnus Carlsen.
Apr-25-15  not not: offramp: Kramnik is certainly still troubled with his necrolysing zombiform tourette's, but he seems to have it under control.

"I've never beaten a healthy opponent." Bobby Fischer's quote

soon, the one of Magnus

Apr-25-15  Ulhumbrus: After 7...Ne7 Black's problems seem to be almost over.

Is there any need to open the game by 9...d5? After 9...Ng6 White has little or no advantage.

Is the capture 10...dxe4 necessary? It gives White's N on d2 a free tempo for development by the recapture 11 Nxe4. After 10...Ng6 what can White do?

16 Nd4 threatens a5 and a6. This suggests 16...a6

Kramnik had almost no trouble from the opening. The first main error seems to be the pawn capture 10..dxe4? which gives White's queen's knight a valuable tempo for development by way of the recapture 11 Nxe4.

Kramnik's play suggests poor playing form, caused possibly by his two previous losses. Perhaps he needs to play just one game in a less sharp style in order to steady his nerves.

Apr-25-15  MagnusVerMagnus: < Ulhumbrus: After 7...Ne7 Black's problems seem to be almost over.> Yes you have hit every point, as Kramnik did in the PC, wow you must be a super-GM too...hehehehehe
Apr-25-15  abadravi: Yeah I remember Naiditsch cracked Carsen in Grenke in outstanding game. but he alone is not enough. This world championship shd be interesting..
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  MissScarlett: This win puts Magnus ahead (+5 -4 =13) for the first time in their personal rivalry in classical chess, but Kramnik hasn't won since 2010.
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  thegoodanarchist: <Kinghunt: ... Carlsen starting to get wins straight from prep is an extremely scary thought.>

Not for his fans!

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  maxi: <perfidious> I remember hearing he had been ill but had no idea it was so serious. It is hard to do anything while in pain, and playing chess would almost seem out of the question.
Apr-28-15  MagnusVerMagnus: They have invented incredible pain killers for pain, however if you are not hurting but injured then do not play, however do not play and then cry like a baby when you lose, insult your opponents [as is his rambling BS (as MC calls it)] during PCs after getting served. How does it feel being MCs' B.. uh client Lil Vlad?
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  tamar: Kramnik explained that his opting for 19...Bc7 was based on a miscalculation. He had thought after 20 Nxc6 Qd6 21 g3 Be6 was fine for Black.

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However, upon reaching this position, he noticed that 22 Nb4 Nxb4 23 cxb4 loses for Black because of the attack on a8.

But he was still not upset because he thought that after 21...Bb7 22 Bf4 he had two playable moves 22... Qc5 and 22...Qd7

But then on closer examination, he saw that each of these failed tactically also.

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  Penguincw: < "Carma" >

Hmm. (Carlsen-lsen) + (Magnus-gnus) = Carma.

So, (Kramnik-mnik) + (Vladimir-adimir) = Kravl (gravel)?

Feb-04-16  GiuocoPianoMan: I like this version of the Berlin since the queens are NOT exchanged and that led to draws in the World Championship.
Feb-04-16  Solomon2003: what was the idea of Kramnik sacrificing the queen
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  Alex Schindler: "necrolizing zombiform tourette's."


Feb-04-16  Solomon2003: whats that
Feb-04-16  Solomon2003: i do not know what is that
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  thegoodanarchist: My Carma ran over my dogma.
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  thegoodanarchist: < Penguincw: < "Carma" >

Hmm. (Carlsen-lsen) + (Magnus-gnus) = Carma.

So, (Kramnik-mnik) + (Vladimir-adimir) = Kravl (gravel)?>

More like grovel. Rhymes with Pavel (Chekov). Aye Kaptin.

Feb-04-16  jhelix70: Kramnik seems to be dealing with his "condition" (LOL) very well...

As of Jan 2016 he is still number 2 on the ratings list!

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  thegoodanarchist: < offramp: Kramnik is certainly still troubled with his necrolysing zombiform tourette's, but he seems to have it under control.>

No doubt, first diagnosed by Gideon Jehosephat Whistlethistle.

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  kevin86: The queen prevails here.
Feb-04-16  Boomie: ->

In our game against Berlin specialist Naiditsch, The World vs Naiditsch, 2014, black opted for exd4. Kramnik keeps the center closed but then opens it later with d5. This feels a bit schizoid to me.

BTW - Our game against Naiditsch is remarkable and well worth a look.

Feb-04-16  morfishine: <Boomie> Yes, I agree completely
Mar-11-18  cormier: <1) -0.07 (39 ply) 9...Ng6> 10.Re1 Re8 11.a4 c6 12.Qc2 Be6 13.Be3 d5 14.Nbd2 exd4 15.Nxd4 dxe4 16.Nxe4 Bd5 17.Nxf6+ Qxf6 18.Nf5 Ne5 19.Bxb6 Nxd3 20.Qxd3 axb6 21.Rxe8+ Rxe8 22.Ne3 Bb3 23.Qd7 Qe7 24.Qxe7 Rxe7 25.a5 bxa5 26.Rxa5 f6 27.Ra7 Be6 28.h4 g6 29.Kf1 Kf7 30.g4

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