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Fabiano Caruana vs Wesley So
Dortmund Sparkassen (2015), Dortmund GER, rd 2, Jun-28
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation. Adams Attack (B90)  ·  0-1



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Jun-29-15  tappingfoot: <iking: <epistle: I'm just pointing the difference. You saw his loss against Nisipeanu? That's chess. Brilliant chess. You learn from it. In contrast, his win against the tired Caruana was like sawing a trunk of tree. He just went at it ad nauseum until the helpless tired tree fell.> .. a classic example of sourgraping ....>

Iking has perfectly used the phrase at the perfect scenario.

They are putting GM Wesley So down, because, GM Wesley So is now representing the most distinguished of all chess federations, the United States Chess Federation, USCF.

Jun-29-15  cro777: GM Alejandro Ramirez: "It's a hard game to explain, as despite the massive ratings from both players, the game was certainly not of the highest quality. Caruana had a good position from the opening, but he had to play actively to try to pressure his opponent. He was even winning at some point with a quick c5 break that he missed."

Position after 19...d5?

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20.c5! dxc5 21.fxe5 Ne4 22.Bxe4 Rxe4 23.d6 Bh4 24.Ng3

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Here, Black can select from 24...Rd4 (proposed by Delchev), 24...Rb4 and 24...Bxg3.

24...Rd4 (24...Rb4 25.Qh5 Be6 26.Rd3 or 24...Bxg3 25.Rxg3 Rd4 26.Qh5) 25. Qh5 Be6 26. Be3 Bxg3 27. Bxd4 Bxf2+ 28. Bxf2 Qb7 29.Bxc5

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29…Qxb2 30.Bb4 or 29…Rc8 30.Qh4

White has a decisive advantage.

In the positions when other pieces still exist on the board, the opposite colors bishops are far from assuring that the game will be a draw. As Delchev pointed out in such positions of primary importance is the king's safety. It is important to attack the opponent’s king as fast as possible.

Now, Caruana's terrible record in recent years in classical games against the Najdorf is 5.5/17 (since 2012).

Jun-29-15  Pedro Fernandez: <<epistle>: Just overconfidence on Caruana's part.> Maybe, but the certain is that So, like Giri, come showing that they belong to ``La Creme'' of the magisterial chess.
Jun-29-15  toyosaki: I'd say So did a one hit wonder, it can happpen to anyone. Caruana's lose was an indication he is exhausted from the previous tourney, jet lag and so forth.

<For an opportunist, opportunity knocks just once!>

I agree.

Jun-29-15  Marmot PFL: "In general it seems Caruana doesn’t have a good feel for the dynamics in the Najdorf. Tries to keep it positional and under control when you need to be tactical, and too tactical when you need to keep it under control." H. Nakamura
Jun-29-15  iking: <shintaro go: Former So fans are even worse than sock puppets. It's laughable and pathetic> .... heart full of hatred.
Jun-30-15  gokusano: Just backread the thread of beronio's page and you'll see who's got the more filthy mind. You criticize only the former fans not the current ones who are sporadically assaulting the page from time to time posting their hatred to what you call 'former fans' . You've got biased judging. That's life, you criticize only those who do not side with you.
Jun-30-15  iking: @ <guko> .. <shintaro> just spoke from the heart, that is what he believed ... as for him, all the former fans are <pathetic> ...
Jun-30-15  iking: <Pedro Fernandez: <<epistle>: Just overconfidence on Caruana's part.> Maybe, but the certain is that So, like Giri, come showing that they belong to ``La Creme'' of the magisterial chess.> .. i agree
Jun-30-15  epistle: I agree 100%. That was in fact the reason why he got creamed by Nisipeanu and will get creamed again soon.

Shintaro wrote "<It's> laughable and pathetic" so he wasn't referring to former fans. Otherwise he would have written: "<They're> laughable and pathetic."

He was actually referring to the first round game of Wesley.

Jun-30-15  iking: <epistle: I agree 100%. That was in fact the reason why he got creamed by Nisipeanu and will get creamed again soon. Shintaro wrote "<It's> laughable and pathetic" so he wasn't referring to former fans. Otherwise he would have written: "<They're> laughable and pathetic."

He was actually referring to the first round game of Wesley.> you missed the point sir <epistle> .. he was referring to the actions (it) of the former fans ... <shintaro> have shown respect to the persons involved by referring only to their past actions. Wesley So do not care much about the criticisms of patzers like us ... we don't know much about chess... maybe <gatus> knew more than us ...

Jun-30-15  iking: <gokusano: It's an old question retold; Who stole the cookie fron the cookie jar? But this time, it's not a cookie. It's a sweetley fruit, ripe for commissioning. Ah, sarap. Iba ang nagsaing, iba ang kumain.> .. korek .. but we often do that in some instances
Jun-30-15  epistle: actions = it ???


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  PawnSac: < 10.exd5 ? >

First of all, i'm nowhere near Caruana's caliber, and respect his ability, so don't want to sound presumptuous in any way, but; I don't like exd5 here for 2 reasons:

a) the only structural weakness in black's position is the backward D pawn, which should be targeted if you want to exploit it. So why shield it with the white pawn?! Furthermore if the Pd5 gets targeted, it is more difficult to support with c4 due to the black Pb4. It would take 3 tempi to support with another pawn, and THAT one would be backward on an open file. Not the endgame I would want

b) exd5 is a non-threatening move, so it lets black steal the initiative, whereas Qxd5 targets the rook, not giving black time for ..h5

While thinking about Qxd5 and Be3 I did a position search in the CG database and found..
A Rasmussen vs F Elsness, 2011

Here Rasmussen played 10.Qxd5!? Ra7 11.Be3 Be6 12.Qd2 Rb7 13.Bg2 Be7 14.Ng3 with much better control of the light squares. THIS is the way I'd play it.

IMHO 10.dxe5 was the beginning of Caruana's decline in this game.

Jul-27-15  Tempo Gambit: I liked the game and I think if they played again So definitely has the potential to win especially in a Sicilian position, and I usually don't like chiming in on Internet debates or arguments whatever the semantics but the comment "former so fans are worse than sock puppets. It's laughable and pathetic" was definitely aimed directly at the fans not their actions not anything else but them as he is comparing them to sock puppets here people... It's an insult and it's directed toward them whether he got it grammatically correct or not is on him but it's pretty straight forward what he's saying. Lol
Jul-27-15  Gilmoy: <37.Rh8 39.Ra8 40.Ra2 59..f4> "Do Not Pass So"

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  thegoodanarchist: This is a STUNNING & BEAUTIFUL game by Wesley So and Fabiano Caruana.

Those who see it now will not be able to appreciate the beauty of this game as much as they will in 20 years.

This will be recognized as a masterpiece of chess accomplishment, similar to

Reti vs Alekhine, 1925

or Karpov vs Kasparov, 1985

Aug-15-15  Barococo Prosopoeia: In twenty years you'd probably be dead already so how would you know how chessplayers (if there'd still be chess at that time) would look at games played today?

No one finds this stunning at all. For stunning, see wei yi vs. Batista

Aug-15-15  iking: such a beautiful win ...
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  thegoodanarchist: <Barococo Prosopoeia: In twenty years you'd probably be dead already>

Speak for yourself - I eat my vegetables and exercise!

Aug-15-15  Pulo y Gata: <thegoodanarchist> You have a reputation for preposterous claims. I don't believe a word of your nonsense.
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  thegoodanarchist: <Pulo y Gata: <thegoodanarchist> You have a reputation for preposterous claims.>

Preposterous claims? You have me confused with <Offramp>. Unless you think eating vegetables and exercising is a preposterous claim. If so, you don't know the meaning of 'preposterous'.

<I don't believe a word of your nonsense.>

Who cares what you believe? Your beliefs have no bearing on fact. Fact just ignores your stupid beliefs and continues on.

Aug-15-15  Pulo y Gata: I made no such claim. I merely stated your reputation.
Aug-15-15  offramp: The only thing we know for certain about <TheGoodAnarchist> is that he is good and he is an anarchist.

Btw, what preposterous claims have I made?

Aug-15-15  zanzibar: And he's either definitive or singular. The real deal, sort-of-speak.
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