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Geoff Chandler vs B Tauren
Edinburgh League (1989)
Spanish Game: Schliemann Defense. Schönemann Attack (C63)  ·  1-0

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Dec-05-17
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  whiteshark: It feels like Monday
Dec-05-17
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  malt: 23.R:c5+ bc5 forced 24.Qe6#
Dec-05-17  Cheapo by the Dozen: I did NOT see that line coming until I started calculating. Nice one!

Even so, I agree -- it was Monday-easy.

Dec-05-17  cocker: Much easier than yesterday's.
Dec-05-17  Cheapo by the Dozen: Move 20 was key. That's where the puzzle could have started.
Dec-05-17  erdogankilic: How about 16...Bh6? Could it save the game?
Dec-05-17
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  agb2002: White has a pawn for a bishop.

Black threatens Bxa6.

The pawn on b6 prevents Qe6#. Hence, 23.Rxc5+ bxc5 24.Qe6#.

Dec-05-17
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  morfishine: <23.Rxc5+> does two things: This check forces 23...bxc5 (which opens up the 6th rank) allowing the White Queen to slide over & deliver mate <24.Qe6#>

The Schliemann defense requires extreme accuracy by those who dare utilize it, something Black lacked here

Great game <Sally>!

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Dec-05-17  stacase: <Fusilli: What <FSR> said. Except for <stacase>. I would never post that.>

Hmmm don't know exactly what's being said here. Seeing the Rook check and forced PxR allowing White's Queen to slide over and say "Mate" maybe was more than three seconds worth of analysis, but it sure didn't take long. Other comments about this being more Mondayish are on the money.

Dec-05-17  mel gibson: Should have been a Monday puzzle.
Dec-05-17
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  Squire49: Good puzzle for Tuesday. Took about 1 minute.
Dec-05-17  laskerdog: Easiest Tuesdays ever?
Dec-05-17
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  patzer2: White's opening move 7. Nc3 sacrifices the Bishop for an attacking initiative, and according to our Opening Explorer (OE) is White's most popular move. It is also the computer first choice.

The next few moves are all book and computer first choice selections, until White's bold stroke 10. Qd4!? This move (10. Qd4!?) is a human first choice (at least according to our OE) which is not favored by the computers. Yet, as this game indicates, it has surprise value and pitfalls for unprepared opponents.

In response to 10. Qd4!? a reasonable defensive try, as noted by <perfidious>, is the game move 10...Qd7 ⩱ to ∓ (-0.72 @ 35 ply, Stockfish 8). However, according to our Opening Explorer, White won all four games in which 10...Qd7 was attempted. This game and White's win in A Kunte vs R Eames, 2001 are the last two attempts with 10...Qd7 in our OE.

The strongest reply to 10. Qd4!? appears to be the bold choice 10...Nxe4 ∓ (-1.22 @ 35 ply, Stockfish 8) as in Black's win in A Feoktistov vs A Karpatchev, 2001.

Dec-05-17
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  Fusilli: Nice, flashy game (as usual) by <Sally>, by the way!
Dec-05-17  BOSTER: < Fusilli:Nice,flashy game by Sally>.. After 17...Rc8 and black is better.
Dec-05-17
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  patzer2: <Boster> is correct that Black should have played 17...Rc8 ⩱ (-0.34 @ 32 ply, Stockfish 8). The game move 17...Bc6 would have lost to an immediate 18. Kc1 +- (+2.12 @ 28 ply, Stockfish 8).

Instead, after 18. d7!?, White and Black missed the difficult draw after 18. d7 Qf5! =.

Dec-05-17
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  Fusilli: <BOSTER: < Fusilli:Nice,flashy game by Sally>.. After 17...Rc8 and black is better.>

Bloody blah blah. Do you get off on, nearly every day, posting petty comments on these puzzles, or "creative variations" of the puzzle just to promote your insecure self? (As you did when a game of mine was featured and, since there was no flaw in that game, you proposed a slightly different position only to show how I could be mated, in a position that didn't exist in the game.) <Sally Simpson> is a very nice fellow, a regular contributor here, and a CONSTRUCTIVE member of chessgames.com. For once, you could be nice and give one of your fellow CG members a well-deserved compliment. But you are too petty and insecure not to keep the focus on you and your self-promoted "brilliance."

Dec-05-17
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  kevin86: Rook sac opens line for queen to checkmate.
Dec-05-17  erdogankilic: chrisowen: Gack c5s clucky gave c5s clubus vim vis it ever 24.Qe6# vide vim vis it eve 23.Rxc5+ v i bet eggers vim bud mate 1 ave gack gun tip pub bright wham vim yes missy ies vet cervix a cut i curry flavour vim croquet von guv fave ohs hon lulu lud gated it's vasts hair flick wos it's vasts how vim vint fakir faro whisk fora frisk whoa c5s cuddle flav gack gun kite tip put vent pub bright rew vim whim myst missy ies von guv either have hood room mices y vow croquet q fancy aorta hon lulu lud gated it's vasts hair flick wos vim vis it eve 23.Rxc5+ vide embue its oks von guv keys catchet buddy bute buff bug big bill bun bent c5s clubus clucky cuddle cuters vent clumsy curers clutch fee cull cinch vim fleece fuel vets cervix a cut i curry flavour vim feck fend feel like feng flesh fetes feet vow vent fever few chooses chess chest chees cheetahs vim choices cheese hours luv cute vim vis it eve 23...bxc5 24.Qe6# vide vim buck but bet cut get gut bug beck bung tug noo plum remember von guv runt rent never vint huss husk hues huts hes

Am i the only one who does not understand a word?

Dec-05-17
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  morfishine: <erdogankilic> On your comment: <...Am i the only one who does not understand a word?>

I've understood <chrisowen> perfectly ever since I put him on ignore

lol

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Dec-05-17
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  Bubo bubo: 23.Rxc5+ bxc5 24.Qe6#

Anyone here who understands why this mate-in-two should be less easy than yesterday's three-move endgame puzzle?

Dec-05-17
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  chessgames.com: We like to switch Monday and Tuesday sometimes just to sew chaos :)
Dec-05-17
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  Sally Simpson: Ah Ha...I've made a Tuesday and it's a cock up.

My 10.Qd4 came from this game J Pisa Ferrer vs Graf Gunther, 1981 which I saw in British Chess Magazine, May 1981, page 169..

That is a cracking game and it is move for move the same as my game.

I may be at fault here. see post R Hardarson vs S Briem, 1982 (kibitz #40) and further down where I say I am going to submit the J Pisa Ferrer vs Graf Gunther game.

I submitted my game for my page and somehow the same game ended up at J Pisa Ferrer vs Graf Gunther, 1981

I'll get it corrected . That game has a puzzle in it.


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White to play.

I am getting it corrected.

Dec-05-17
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Fusilli:,

No need to defend me. I don't mind what anyone says about one of my games. I lost hundreds of games in the analysis room after getting the point in the game that mattered.

Also, It was a League Game which is often played in a setting the top players would just refuse to play in.

You play in the evening, usually after a full days work in a dimly lit room. 36 moves in 1 hour and 15 mins + 10 minute allegro (no add ons) on a chess set sometimes with a piece missing.

Once v a University team I had to use a matchbox for a Rook...Have you ever Castled with a matchbox?

Sounds awful but some of the best nights out I've had have been the after match booze up in the 80's and 90's. Very often tumbling through the front door at home round about dawn.

Dec-07-17
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  Check It Out: <perf> Thanks, that's good info on the background of the sac.
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