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|Dec-12-15|| ||Fiona Macleod: <Domdaniel: <MyCoachingDreams> -- < he has a beautiful wife just like me> It's good that you are beautiful like Giri's wife. Are you looking for a husband? For a small fee, we can fix you up with a modestly talented member of chessgames.
Even if you turn out to be a man, gay marriage is now legal in many countries.>|
Indeed. So. Narcissistic.
|Dec-12-15|| ||ICCM Bart Gibbons: There is more to White's 20th move than it would seem at first glance. After 20 c3 bc3, White's knight on b3 is hanging.
This would seem to force 21 Qc3, except that allows 21..d4, attacking the queen and the knight a second time with the bishop. However, White can safely play 21 bc3, as the black queen is trapped after 21...Qb3 22 Reb1. Nevertheless, 20...bc3 may be Black's best move.|
|Dec-12-15|| ||HeMateMe: was it that desperate for black that he had to give up his queen?|
|Dec-12-15|| ||King Radio: I don't know what Nakamura was thinking, and I haven't heard any comment from him, but I think he just missed something. If he traded queens, it might lose or it might draw, and clearly he should have done that, but I think he saw something in the queen sac that turned out to be wrong.|
|Dec-12-15|| ||Atking: 24...Nf6 then 25.Bb7 b2 26.Qb2 (26.RxB?! RxB 27...Rce8 with control of e file 26...Rcd8 27.Nc4 BxN 28.dxB Nh5 with 29...Qg6 Or 25.Nc4 BxN 26.RxR (Else Black will exchange the Rook on e file and take pawn a6) 26...b3 27.Qb2 RxR 28.dxB Nh5 it seems to me that Black has the easiest side here.|
|Dec-12-15|| ||1971: Great game from Anish.|
|Dec-12-15|| ||ajile: The KIA is an "Uncommon Opening"?|
|Dec-12-15|| ||Sally Simpson: I'm guessing as it was not a Berlin therefore it's uncommon.|
|Dec-12-15|| ||perfidious: <Sally Simpson: I'm guessing as it was not a Berlin therefore it's uncommon.>|
Given the way top-level chess has gone in general, and this tourney has in particular, 'bout says it all.
|Dec-13-15|| ||Mendrys: <dumbgai: <Mendrys: Does anyone know why Hikaru played 32. Qxc6 rather then Rxc6?>
Maybe because Qxc6 is a legal move while Rxc6 is not.>
Ok, I see that now. I was playing thru the game before it became available online and I had the queen on b6 instead of c7. I was thinking either myself or Nakamura had lost his mind.|
|Dec-13-15|| ||PhilFeeley: "Uncommon"? Isn't this a King's Indian Attack?|
|Dec-13-15|| ||Caissanist: At the postgame press conference, Nakamura sounded like he thought he was in trouble when he sacced his queen:|
<What happened today was simply: I misassessed the position. I thought I was a little bit worse when it's probably completely equal and I tried to force things because I thought I had to go for counterplay.
“Essentially it just came down to this idea of, you know, Anish was able to get his bishop to b7 before I got my knight to d5 and I just didn't sense the danger, I thought it was all just relatively OK. And maybe it was but it was a little bit unpleasant. By the time I realized it could be quite bad it was already much too late. Things happen.”>
Engine analysis, though, indicates the position was a likely draw if black plays 32..Qb6 instead.
|Dec-13-15|| ||1971: Why can't Black go right back with 16...Bc8 to attack that pawn?|
|Dec-13-15|| ||Atking: <Things happen.> Especially when you have fought many hours a difficult ending to lost vs Carlsen the previous day.|
|Dec-13-15|| ||Mehem: <the position was a likely draw if black plays 32..Qb6 instead> Highly doubtful. 33.Bxc8 Rxc8 34.Rxe6! fxe6 35.Ne5 and there's no good defence against the threats Qf7, Ng6, Rd7.|
|Dec-13-15|| ||MyCoachingDreams: <Domdaniel: <MyCoachingDreams> -- < he has a beautiful wife just like me> It's good that you are beautiful like Giri's wife. Are you looking for a husband? For a small fee, we can fix you up with a modestly talented member of chessgames.>|
Baha! Nice catch Dom. It's a trap!
|Dec-13-15|| ||DeltaHawk: Basically, Nakamura resigns because he either loses his rook or bishop, right? If he tries to protect his bishop with Rd5, Giri will fork Nak's king and rook, so Nak's rook will be lost. If Nak does Rg4, then Giri does a fork, likewise. The least cost that Nak will have to endure is losing his bishop with Ra5, Rb5 or Rc5, since he cannot protect his bishop with Rd5, lest his rook will be lost.|
|Dec-13-15|| ||Ulhumbrus: After 11...ed can Black's d pawn be called a weapon or a target? If the latter an alternative is 11...Nxd5 developing the N further as well as clearing the f6 square for Black's KB|
13..Qb6 leaves White's queen's bishop in possession of the h2-b8 diagonal. Instead of this 13...Bd6 refuses to concede this diagonal to White's queen's bishop
Giri indicated that the exchanges 23...dxc3 and 24...bxc3 were mistaken because they helped White instead of Black. He said that it was in Black's interests to maintain the tension as White could not capture advantageously on d4 or b4. This suggests that if Nakamura aimed to gain something by them, he also conceded too much to White in return.
After 25 Qxc3 White's bishops occupy the diagonals h1-a8 and h2-b8 and White threatens potentially to trap a black rook by 27 Bb7 and Black appears to have no satisfactory way to answer the threat. On 25...Bd6 26 Rfb1 forces the black queen to abandon her defence of the king's bishop.
With 32 Nc6 Giri does not take the exchange if this means that Black will have a pawn and the bishop pair for it.
After 41...Bc7 Aronian and Grischuk gave 42 Qg6+ Kg8 and then the interesting zigzag manoeuvre Qg6-e8-e4-a8-a7 on the part of White's queen by 43 Qe8+ Kh7 44 Qe4+ Kg8 45 Qa8+ Kh7 46 Qxa7
|Dec-13-15|| ||perfidious: <MyCoachingDreams: The Sub Nakamura is still reeling from his YAPL (Yet Another Predictable Loss) aka whipping by his Dom and master Carlsen....>|
Trouble can come thick and fast in this company: it is a simple matter to sit on the sidelines, playing Monday morning quarterback and being relentlessly critical of every shortcoming, whether real or perceived, in these elite players, but it is risible for any poster to imagine--as some appear to--that such verbal effluvium is anything more than delusions of godhead.
|Dec-13-15|| ||MyCoachingDreams: In English please...|
|Dec-13-15|| ||keypusher: <DeltaHawk: Basically, Nakamura resigns because he either loses his rook or bishop, right? If he tries to protect his bishop with Rd5, Giri will fork Nak's king and rook, so Nak's rook will be lost. If Nak does Rg4, then Giri does a fork, likewise. The least cost that Nak will have to endure is losing his bishop with Ra5, Rb5 or Rc5, since he cannot protect his bishop with Rd5, lest his rook will be lost.> |
Yes, and if he tries pushing his pawn Giri will just take his rook, since there is a mate: 43....c2 44.fxg5 c1/Q 45.g6+ Kh8 46.Qe8+ Bf8 47.Qxf8#.
|Dec-14-15|| ||MCDreams: After Carlsen emasculated this pretender Nakamura, there's no way he can win his next game. Good thing he's no longer #2. That's just embarrassing.|
|Dec-14-15|| ||keypusher: Thank God for the ignore list.|
|Dec-14-15|| ||Fiona Macleod: It's a privilege to read a GM's post here. Especially one with a lot to say about the great Naka.|
|Dec-15-15|| ||Mudphudder: Yeah, naka definitely was still licking his wounds from his beatdown. No way giri could beat naka this easily on any other day.|
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