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|Mar-19-16|| ||An Englishman: Good Morning: Appears that both players have realized that they have two passed pawns. The immediate Ra7-c7 cleared the way for the a-pawn, whilst the Black g-pawn is already on the move. Of course, 45.a4 does carry the additional threat of mate in four, a good reason to delay e6-e7.|
|Mar-19-16|| ||Ulhumbrus: Caruana tosses his g pawn into the scales. Now Caruana's g pawn threatens to reach g1|
|Mar-19-16|| ||Marmot PFL: Draw agreed|
|Mar-19-16|| ||gopal936: It is draw unless a blunder|
|Mar-19-16|| ||PawnSac: < AylerKupp: I don't know why the folks at chess24.com stop Stockfish's analysis at such low ply. It seems that they only let it run for a certain amount of time. It would make so much more sense to let it run (with Ponder=ON) until the other player makes their move. That would allow it to get a better evaluation without sacrificing anything. >|
yes! i don't use the prog much, as i think it sorta short circuits our on mental processes. just loaded it in this game since it was a bit complex and i was curious. but even when i do use it anything under 30 ply is a tosser, and usually if serious and have time i want to see above 40
< ..they should upgrade to ..Stockfish 7. >
oh! didn't know it was available! I'm going shopping! ty
|Mar-19-16|| ||Ulhumbrus: <An Englishman: ... 45.a4 does carry the additional threat of mate in four...> This suggests that after 45 a4 the black king is a liability while the white king is not and the white rook is an asset in a way which the black rook is not.|
|Mar-19-16|| ||raju17: The black night was not worth a pawn why give Golden bishop for that????|
|Mar-19-16|| ||OhioChessFan: I'm sure both sides are noticing the g Pawn won't Queen with check due to the Rook on that diagonal.|
|Mar-19-16|| ||AylerKupp: <OhioChessFan>, <PawnSac> Of course, as soon as I posted my comment above, Jan Gustafson at the chess24.com site indicated that premium members ($ 10/month) have access to engines that search to deeper plies. But, given the other features that you have access to with a premium membership, I don't think that the $ 10/month is worth it. Others may disagree (and many obviously do).|
|Mar-19-16|| ||raju17: The white e pawn is now distressed and Rook overloaded to stop two black passed pawns|
|Mar-19-16|| ||An Englishman: Good Morning: <Ulhumbrus>, yes and that explains why 45.Bxe4 surprises me. Evidently, the position is not as good for White as I thought and Svidler decided to bail out and take the draw. Unless, of course, he found a quicker and easier win.|
|Mar-19-16|| ||Ulhumbrus: <raju17: The black night was not worth a pawn why give Golden bishop for that????> Svidler may have panicked after seeing the advance of the g pawn which is more advanced than White's a pawn but as <An Englishman> has indicated in reply to ...g2-g1/Q White's a pawn gets crowned with check|
|Mar-19-16|| ||AylerKupp: <PawnSac> If you are interested in upgrading to Stockfish 7, you will probably be interested in the links I listed in these 3 posts:|
Stockfish (Computer) (kibitz #98)
Stockfish (Computer) (kibitz #99)
Stockfish (Computer) (kibitz #100)
|Mar-19-16|| ||raju17: ... Kg8 black king actively participates|
|Mar-19-16|| ||Gregor Samsa Mendel: They agreed to a draw??!|
|Mar-19-16|| ||Open Defence: This is a position where I might play a1 = Q like a boss....|
|Mar-19-16|| ||sonia91: yes, draw agreed|
|Mar-19-16|| ||PawnSac: AylerKupp: <PawnSac> If you are interested in upgrading..|
yes ty very much!
|Mar-19-16|| ||Penguincw: Yeah, that concludes today's game(s). Drawn in 45 moves here.|
Thank you <cg> for another 2-game broadcast day. No major changes to the leaderboard. Tomorrow's game will rather be Svidler - Karjakin or Aronian - Giri. If I had to choose, it'd be the former, as it's G2 of a rematch from the World Cup, but I think Aronian has received less broadcast time.
|Mar-19-16|| ||Tatumart: Yep. That's where it was heading. Many more moves, yes. But a tie :))|
|Mar-19-16|| ||PawnSac: i think he missed a few other opportunities earlier.
post mortum may be depressing. lol|
|Mar-19-16|| ||AylerKupp: <Gregor Samsa Mendel> It was reasonable. After, for example, 45...Rxe4 46.Rxc3 Rxe6+ it's a tablebase draw.
click for larger view
|Mar-19-16|| ||raju17: bxe4 1/2-1/2 as black is slightly well off but not enough to win.|
|Mar-19-16|| ||raju17: Bxe4 i mean|
|Mar-20-16|| ||Ulhumbrus: A quote from the TWIC website. Here is the link:
<36. e4?! < 36. Rb7 g5 < 36... Rf6 37. e4! > 37. Rxb6 freeing the a-pawn seems stronger. Indeed freeing the a-pawn should be what white is trying to do. Svidler said he thought this was his biggest mistake in the game and was his original intention. 37... g4 38. e3 Rf3 39. Rg6+ Kf8 40. Rxg4 Rxe3+ 41. Kc2 wins too most likely. >>
A quote from Svidler on the chess24 website. Here is the link:
<After 41…c4 I had one more shot at redemption, so to speak, and I made a ridiculous mistake here, because pushing the pawn to e6 makes Fabiano’s life much, much easier, because it gives him the f6-square for the knight in every single variation. I should just keep the pawn on e5, and after 42.a4 it might still be a draw – we don’t really know – but it would make his life much harder.>>
One point of not playing White's bishop to b3 to hinder Black's c pawn and of playing Rc7 instead is that even if Black's c pawn reaches c2 it advances no further because Black's rook covers the pawn only from the side and does not cover the square c1 eg 42 a4 c3 43 Bd5+ Kh8 44 Rc7! c2 45 a5 and Black's c pawn advances no further. The computer on the chess24 website appears to evaluate the position at the end of this sequence after 45 a5 as a win for White.
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