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Magnus Carlsen vs Pavel Eljanov
Norway Chess (2016), Stavanger NOR, rd 9, Apr-29
Queen's Gambit Declined: General (D30)  ·  1-0



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  AylerKupp: It's tough to play against Einstein's theory.
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  Gypsy: Time for a dance.
Apr-29-16  beenthere240: Black may have perpetual chances due to the weaknesses around White's king
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  chancho: Well, Carlsen shook off his loss to Aronian and he still gets first place.

The Norwegian Stallion strikes again!

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Apr-29-16  beenthere240: Well AK, you called it.
Apr-29-16  cormier:

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35...Kg7 36.Qc5 Kf7 37.b6 Qd7 38.Qc7 Ke7 39.Qa7 e5 40.b7 exd4 41.Qc5+ Qd6 42.Qxd6+ Kxd6 43.b8Q+ Kd7 44.Qb7+ Ke6 45.Qxe4+ Kf7 46.exd4 h5 47.Qe5 Kg8 48.d5 Kf7 (15.56) Depth: 19/42 00:00:12 15456kN

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  plang: already drawn
Apr-29-16  chessdgc2: After Black's ...f5, he was doing fine, but didn't follow through playing a Dutch system...I don't know what he was trying to do on the Q-side with such a potentially strong K-side...go figure!
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  chancho: This one goes to the Champ:

Apr-29-16  Absentee: < Switch to Harikrishna-Aronian?>

They drew a while ago. What about Topalov-Kramnik?

Apr-29-16  Ulhumbrus: Well, we know now one thing at least which Carlsen could do with his bishop in one event: shatter Black's pawns by capturing a knight.

Is it possible that Eljanov underestimated Carlsen?

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  AylerKupp: <beenthere240> About time I was right. But I think that Carlsen is the best in the world right now in playing this type of game and winning this type of position if he is determined to do so. So I was just playing the odds.
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  chancho: <Ulhumbrus> You're trolling <keypusher>, admit it. :-)
Apr-29-16  Ulhumbrus: <chancho: <Ulhumbrus> You're trolling <keypusher>, admit it.> I cannot admit that which is not true
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  diceman: <Gypsy: <diceman> Thx! (A puzzling move, as you say)>

I just looked.

Looks like it draws because black can play Qa2 and there is too much pressure on white's f2 square.

Looks like black also missed it.

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  keypusher: <chancho: <Ulhumbrus> You're trolling <keypusher>, admit it. :-)>

Nonsense, it's far more likely that Eljanov underestimated the #1 player in the world who also has a clean score against him.

Apr-29-16  jdc2: I sometimes play one engine against another using a starting position from an actual game, in order to see other possibilities. I used the position after Black's move 9 here and for some reason the engines did this:

[Date "2016.04.29"]
[White "Stockfish 240416 64 POPCNT"]
[Black "Stockfish 170416 64 POPCNT"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. g3 Bb4+ 5. Bd2 Be7 6. Bg2 O-O 7. O-O c6 8. Qc2 Nbd7 9. a4 a5 10. Rc1 h6 11. Bf4 Nh5 12. Bd2 Nhf6 13. Bf4 Nh5 14. Bd2 Nhf6 1/2-1/2

Time control was 30 moves in 1 minute.

Apr-29-16  Everett: This is not Lasker, this is Karpov. Carlsen seems to regroup to his back rank more than anyone among the elite.
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  kbob: Regarding the nuance 4. ... Bb4+ to provoke 5. Bd2; you could argue that Carlsen found a way to make use of this free tempo after all.
Apr-29-16  falso contacto: Very deep game indeed.
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  perfidious: <keypusher: Nonsense, it's far more likely that Eljanov underestimated the #1 player in the world who also has a clean score against him.>

Looks that way.

Apr-30-16  drleper: <Ulhumbrus: <chancho: <Ulhumbrus> You're trolling <keypusher>, admit it.> I cannot admit that which is not true>

Is it possible that Ulhumbrus underestimated chancho? ;)

Apr-30-16  Ulhumbrus: <drleper: <Ulhumbrus: <chancho: <Ulhumbrus> You're trolling <keypusher>, admit it.> I cannot admit that which is not true>

Is it possible that Ulhumbrus underestimated chancho? ;)> I put it to you that you are not trolling but speaking in jest

Apr-30-16  Everett: <Ulhumbrus> trolled <Keypusher> in front of his own King, weakening his position rashly and without justification.
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