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Wesley So vs Veselin Topalov
Sinquefield Cup (2016), Saint Louis, MO USA, rd 6, Aug-11
English Opening: King's English Variation. General (A20)  ·  1-0



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Aug-11-16  cormier: yes ...
Aug-11-16  cro777: The win has allowed Wesley to leapfrog Topalov and take the lead!

Aug-11-16  Ulhumbrus: Topalov will probably examine his game to in order to find out where he could have done better. My guess is that with best play So would have been lucky to draw this game.
Aug-11-16  WorstPlayerEver: No winning picture of So? :)
Aug-11-16  TheFocus: Congratulations to Wesley!!
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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: Somewhere, User: Nina Myers is crying.
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  An Englishman: Good Afternoon: So had weak squares, pieces and diagonals everywhere, yet he managed to protects all of his weaknesses and advance his own attack at the same time. Pretty impressive.
Aug-11-16  cro777: Wesley So: "I didn't get much from the opening. I prepared until move 20 but he found all the right moves. The position is harmless. Fortunately, the opening is not the only part of the game."

Topalov overestimated his position and didn't take on c5.

Aug-11-16  ambongtumbong: napakasakit kuya Eddie!!
Aug-11-16  cro777: Wesley's preparation ended here:

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Topalov found the right moves:

20...Qd7 21.Rf3 Rbd8 22.d4 c6 23.Rcf1 Qd5

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How Black can lose this position. Ask Topalov.

Aug-11-16  cormier: i wonder about what if the move 34...Rd8 had been played
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  perfidious: <GSM: Somewhere, User: Nina Myers is crying.>

She will get over it.

Or not.


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  thegoodanarchist: Nice chess by Wesley So!!!! I'm very pleased to see this kind of play
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  HeMateMe: <Topalov overestimated his position and didn't take on c5.>

yes. He didn't calculate a forced win for the pawn. The loss of material killed him.

Aug-12-16  kamagong24: Wesley showed maturity in this game!

good job kabayan

Aug-12-16  Hodor: <GSM: Somewhere, User: Nina Myers is crying.> #I'mwithher
Aug-12-16  john barleycorn: So, where are the napkins?
Aug-12-16  Ulhumbrus: After 32...Qxc5 Black has the better minor piece and White's e pawn is isolated. Topalov may have either overestimated his side of the position or overlooked something with 32...Re5
Aug-12-16  Sally Simpson: Well that was quite a game with a wee bit of mind games thrown in.

(probably reading more into it than there is but speculation and hindsight are a kibitzer's prerogative.)

Wes's 22.Qc2 declining the Queen swap was a 'I'm here to win move.' which must have pleasantly surprised Topalov.

Later Topalov had on the table an unspoken draw offer here (Black to play)

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27...Qd6 28.Ne4 Qd5 29.Nc3 etc...

I don't think White can allow the BQ to stay on d6 with Bc7 in the wings.

But Topalov did not want that ('I too am here to win') and the fun began.

And the question was here. (Black to play.)

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Do you take the c5 pawn and allow a discovered attack on the Queen (32...Qxc5 33.Nd5)

If you do the BQ has only two square to go. a7 or d6. On Qd6 Nf6+ looks very good. It has to be Qa7.

If the computers are saying Black is OK then good for them.

But it does mean Topalov will have to find some very good and possibly only moves OTB.

The Knight is on d5 Black's position is being held together by that d8 Bishop. Given half a chance White will chop it with a Rook and plonk the Knight on f6 with a check.

Already deflecting ideas like Rc7 Bxc7 and Nf6+ are appearing, not quite on yet but something for Black to look out for. White could starting prepping it with Rc6 and Qc3.

Nah...If to maintain material equality it means a Queen on a7, their Knight on d5 and an awkward position bristling with exchange sac ideas then sod that.

Topalov went for the active defence by hitting Elroy on e3 and cooking up his own threats.

The Wise and the Wonderful can condemn the decision but OTB with a clocking ticking it was the way to go.

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  profK: Uncommon opening..Rubbish, try Botvinnik vs Portisch 1968, English Opening, (Kings English) reversed Dragon!!!
Aug-13-16  epistle: this is a boring game.
Aug-14-16  Ulhumbrus: 28 Na4 takes a step away from e4. This suggests 28...Qd6 followed by ...Bc7
Aug-14-16  WorstPlayerEver: I guess 28... b6 is where the trouble began. 32... Re5 instead of Qc5 is quite odd. Maybe Topalov feared 33. Nd5

37... Bh4 was the fïnal mistake in a bad position.

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  whiteshark: The ECO designation for the game is wrong; It should be <A20/A22 English>
Oct-28-16  laspineros: cro777: Wesley So: "I didn't get much from the opening. I prepared until move 20 but he found all the right moves. The position is harmless. Fortunately, the opening is not the only part of the game." There's the key word "HARMLESS" maybe not for the simple minds though..
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