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|Jul-30-18|| ||jith1207: I think the Pet Chimpanzee has got more IQ, that this is Monday puzzle in the Planet of the Apes.|
|Jul-30-18|| ||jith1207: <Chessgames.com> hasn't kibitzed yet since 24th of July. So yes, this is running on automation, guys. Or worse, taken over by zombies.|
|Jul-30-18|| ||Walter Glattke: Remember, I have seen this before.|
|Jul-30-18|| ||agb2002: Recycled.|
|Jul-30-18|| ||Mayankk: And after an ego-boosting Sunday, we have an ego-deflating Monday.|
Such are the ways of the world. Just when you think your chess has finally improved...
|Jul-30-18|| ||WorstPlayerEver: <cg> trolling.|
|Jul-30-18|| ||Once: Okay campers, rise and shine, and donít forget your booties cos itís cooold out there today.|
|Jul-30-18|| ||et1: very easy ? my word !|
|Jul-30-18|| ||malt: This looks familiar, see earlier post.|
|Jul-30-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: Like <malt>, I also refer the reader to my post on p. 1 of the kibitzing, which includes my unpopular proposal for the GOTD title: "Volkov and live!"|
|Jul-30-18|| ||gofer: |
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Hmmm, a win in 15 moves against any defence.
Yep, that's not quite <Monday> stuff - even if you
saw the same puzzle a month before on a <Friday> - it is still not
a <Monday> POTD a month later...
|Jul-30-18|| ||saturn2: The puzzle itself is not monday but if you have seen it before it is monday level to solve it again.|
|Jul-30-18|| ||steinitzfan: The Monday puzzle for androids in the year 2500.|
|Jul-30-18|| ||TheTamale: The ChessGames viewer is telling me that this is a 3-move repetition draw, so I can't even play with the end position by moving the pieces around, as I usually do.|
|Jul-30-18|| ||patzer2: Correction: For a Black improvement, 114...Kf4 = (Stockfish 9 analysis of move 114...?) appears to hold the draw.|
After the decisive error 114...Bc7?, White can force mate in 18 with 115. Nb7! +- (Stockfish 9 analysis of move 115.?).
|Jul-30-18|| ||awfulhangover: It took me a long time to go for Nb7. Meanwhile, I felt like an idiot. Very easy?|
|Jul-30-18|| ||Chess for life: Definitely not a normal Monday!!|
|Jul-30-18|| ||Marmot PFL: The Mondays are getting harder and this one requires some good ending skills. Both players are over 2400 BTW.|
|Jul-30-18|| ||Penguincw: < jith1207: <Chessgames.com> hasn't kibitzed yet since 24th of July. So yes, this is running on automation, guys. Or worse, taken over by zombies. >|
Or even worse, a death. :( Daniel Freeman
|Jul-30-18|| ||NBZ: I found this difficult too. Dvoretsky's advice for positions like this is: if you could place your pieces anywhere on the board, where he would you like them to be? Once you know that, you can try to figure out how to get the pieces there.|
So I thought, "But of course! If my king is on c8 and the bishop on a5-b6, then Nc4! and the bishop has no squares on the short diagonal." And for a long time I struggled to get my king to c8 while preventing the bishop from reaching d8 and the longer diagonal. But of course that doesn't work.
Then suddenly the *other* way to place the White pieces struck me: K on c6 and N on b7! And this has the great advantage that Nb7 can be played right away, denying Bd8 and trapping the bishop on the short diagonal. And then the king comes to c6 and the rest is easy-peasy: though there is still that matter of Nc5+ which has to be seen in advance.
|Jul-30-18|| ||al wazir: Explanation for the repetition:
<Sargon: I will be <attempting> to fill Dan's <large> shoes by assuming administration of the site and database for the time being.
Much of the <Chessgames.com> site's functionality is <not> documented, and was known only to Dan, but a good bit has become familiar to me as I've assisted him at various times since its inception. Additionally, Dan and I acquired similar skill sets over the decades. Nonetheless, I ask that everyone <please> bear with me while I begin this daunting process, which will be immensely <challenging>, to say the very least.> Daniel Freeman (kibitz #288)
|Jul-30-18|| ||NM JRousselle: I like puzzles like this. They really test a player's knowledge of the game. In the puzzle position, White only has 12 LEGAL moves. Pushing the pawn can be dismissed, so with only 11 LEGAL moves, how tough can this be?|
2 PLANS come to mind:
1 - place the king on c8(e8) and the knight on c7(e7). The Black king looks to be too close for this to work as the bishop has to be denied the d8 square where it can switch defensive diagonals.
2 - place the knight on b7, denying the bishop of 2 squares on its current diagonal AND not allowing the bishop to change defensive diagonals. The White king can take away the last 2 squares.
In my mind, problems like this are easier if one thinks IDEAS and NOT moves.
|Jul-30-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: <NM JRousselle:
In my mind, problems like this are easier if one thinks IDEAS and NOT moves.>
Very "Cartesian", but without the specific Nc5+ the ideas wouldn't have worked (the devil is in the details).
|Jul-30-18|| ||stst: If 115. Nf7/b7, then all three white pieces are on light squares, the Bishop could do nothing.
If then Bd8 to block the promotion, NxB, else B=Any, 116. d8=Q, and if BxQ, NxB and White prevails.
OR, 115.Ke7.... similar reasoning|
|Jul-31-18|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: Black stays alive so long as the bishop controls the queening square for the white d-pawn. If the K+N can purge the bishop from the defending line without losing the pawn, it's over. This is more easily accomplished on the short diagonal (a5-d8) than on the longer diagonal (h4-d8), suggesting the move: |
... to restrict the black bishop to a5-d5 and take away two of its flight squares.
A. 115... Bb6 (all other bishop moves lose the bishop or allow the pawn to promote) 116.Kd5 Kf5 117.Kc6 wins the bishop or promotes the pawn.
B. 115... Kf4 (or Kg5) 116.Kd5 Kf5 117.Kc6 reaches the same outcome.
This tripped me up at first, as I tried to get the WK to a square that controls the queening square.
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