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Wesley So vs Sergey Karjakin
Norway Chess (2017), Stavanger NOR, rd 4, Jun-09
Italian Game: Italian Variation (C50)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Jun-10-17  not not: I dont see a plan here for white, maybe trying to capture c pawn. but his king is naked. Draw?
Jun-10-17  Marmot PFL: white just plays h7+ and walks his king in. black is busted.
Jun-10-17  not not: Im slow today at typing, alas
Jun-10-17  not not: Cant blach stalemate themselves by exchanges on e7 hm... Giving up both rooks
Jun-10-17  SirRuthless: The table is being set for a crazy king situation. Black needs to find a way to destroy his rooks and not give himself a move.
Jun-10-17  offramp: Fantastic position. 66...Rb1 looks like a good drawing movw.
Jun-10-17  Marmot PFL: <Cant blach stalemate themselves by exchanges on e7 hm... Giving up both rooks>

i would probably miss that but So won't (i was typing) but maybe he just did!

Jun-10-17  SirRuthless: Karjakin is a technical genius. He could squeeze a draw from any position where the resources exist. What a study-like endgame this is. Wesley probably saw this too which is why he avoided pushing the g pawn until he had to .
Jun-10-17  hashtag: desperadoRook
Jun-10-17  not not: It reminds me of Nimzo game with crazy rook biting enemy king in order to stalemate, if I remember right
Jun-10-17  Marmot PFL: Karjakin rolled the dice and got lucky. i can't believe white wasn't winning this.
Jun-10-17  fisayo123: Karjakin extremely lucky. He's been terrible in this tournament getting outplayed in almost every game.
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  JointheArmy: What in the hell just happened? Wasn't So completely winning??
Jun-10-17  not not: Russian Ministry of Defence at his best
Jun-10-17  fisayo123: Yes he was but he blundered his all important pawn failing to see there was stalemate potential on the board.
Jun-10-17  Gregor Fenrir: So had huge advantage twice and wasted it by pawn snatching. First mistake is 34. ♕xc4 that allowed equalising 34... ♘f6. (Best mowe was 34. ♔f2 defending rook.) Second mistake is 68. ♔xf5. The only good move for white was 68. ♗g3.
Jun-10-17  docbenway: Bummer, I was expecting So to knock off the Putin stooge.
Jun-10-17  geniokov: "Kling Check!" White can't escape with this machine gun check!
Jun-10-17  johnkr: johnkr: Actually 68 Bg3 does not prevent the stalemate because Black just plays Rxg3ch and then picks up the e-pawn. After that he chases the White K around the board, sacrificing his R to produce stalemate! Still very deep game and a pity So could not score a full point.
Jun-10-17  wordfunph: Great save by So
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  tamar: The good news is there was no collusion, no obstruction, but the bad news is that So is a 1/2 pt leaker.
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  tamar: So and Karjakin discuss the game
Jun-11-17  PhilFeeley: The rook sac? 26. Rxb8. Sound or not?
Jun-11-17  BUNA: Actually already from move 63 (Re8 instead of the possible gxh6 with three black pawns for the bishop) onwards Karjakin was playing for a stalemate. So he wasn't just hoping to get lucky but rather set up a position where stalemate would be possible.
Jun-11-17  technical win: gambled away
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