Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Matthias Bluebaum vs Vladimir Fedoseev
Dortmund Sparkassen (2017), Dortmund GER, rd 2, Jul-16
Semi-Slav Defense: Stoltz Variation (D45)  ·  1-0



explore this opening
find similar games 1 more M Bluebaum/V Fedoseev game
sac: 27.Ne4 PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can get computer analysis by clicking the "ENGINE" button below the game.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.

Kibitzer's Corner
Jul-16-17  Marmot PFL: Looks like Kramnik should have played 1 d4 yesterday.
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: Fedo's queenside operation starting with <21...Nb6> ended in a disaster in a minimum of time
Premium Chessgames Member
  iking: nice win ..
Jul-17-17  Captain Hindsight: <Marmot PFL: Looks like Kramnik should have played 1 d4 yesterday.> I couldn't have said it any better.
Jul-17-17  ChessHigherCat: Was 25. a3 really played? I was looking for the mysterious mating threat if 25...QxB can't find it:

25. a3 Qxb3 26. Qg3 g6 27. Qh4 h5 28. Qg5 Kh7

Or 25. a3 Qxb3 26. Rg3 g6 27. Rxg6+ fxg6 and black's queen guards f7

Jul-17-17  fisayo123: <2720+> Fedoseev isn't exactly hopeless vs 1. d4 Just a bad day at the office.
Premium Chessgames Member
  malt: Agree with <chessHighercat> 25.a3, there was 25.Re4 Qa5 26.B:a4 or 25.B:f7+ K:f7 26.fg7+ Kg8 27.Ne4
Premium Chessgames Member
  beatgiant: 25. a3 Qxb3 26. Qg3 g6 <27. Qf4>, and now Black's ...h5 does not prevent Qh6. I don't see a good defense.
Premium Chessgames Member
  PhilFeeley: White slapped that queen around pretty well.
Jul-19-17  talwnbe4: after 25..Qxb3? 26. Qg3 it's forced mate..
26..g6 26.Qg5 Kh8 28. Re4 Rg8 29. Rh4 Qc4 30. Ne4 Qxe4 31. Rxe4 Nd5 32. Rh4

after 25..Qf8 black was losing badly 4.5

25. Bxf7+ is also strong 6.4

Jul-19-17  talwnbe4: 22. f5! immediately attacking realising the dark squares around Fedoseev's king are weak. Fedoseev's position was already bad.
Premium Chessgames Member
  beatgiant: <talwnbe4>
Agreed, but after 25...Qxb3 26. Qg3 g6 27. Qg5 (or 27. Qf4) Kh8, I was looking at simply <28. Qh6> Rg8 29. Rd8 with 30. Qg7# next. I think Black can only delay that line a few moves by jettisoning a couple of pieces.
Jul-20-17  MuzioFan: <beatgiant> You are almost correct, black can choose to go down the hopelessly lost line 25...Qxb3 26. Qg3 g6 27. Qg5 (or 27. Qf4) Kh8 28. Qh6 <Qxd1+> 29. Nxd1 Rg8 and while the game is completely over there is no immediate mate (30. Rd3? Be6).
Premium Chessgames Member
  beatgiant: <MuzioFan>
Thanks. I had seen 28...Qxd1+ in your line, but what I missed was at the end of it, if 30. Re4 (threatens Qxh7+/Rh4# or Rh4/Qxh7#) Black staves off immediate mate with 30...g5.

But even in <talwnbe4>'s line there must be ways for Black to drop pieces to prevent immediate mate - for example, what if 25...Qxb3 26. Qg3 g6 27. Qg5 Kh8 28. Re4 <Bg4>? Probably we have to check these with a computer.

Anyway, I think we've answered the original question about the <mysterious mating threat> that was not so mysterious for the players.

Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: I had spotted the line given by <beatgiant> which enables Fedoseev to survive a while with 30....g5, though surely Black is losing in the end, but found no forcing wind-up thereafter.
Premium Chessgames Member
  morfishine: Deep game...


Jul-21-17  ChessHigherCat: <beatgiant: Anyway, I think we've answered the original question about the <mysterious mating threat> that was not so mysterious for the players.>

Thanks, I missed 27. Qf4.

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.

NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
A1a: Semi-Slav Defense: Stoltz Variation
from Semi-Slav, Stoltz Var.-White wins by imsighked2
Semi Slav : Stoltz Variation : Qc2 Bd6
by ISeth

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2020, Chessgames Services LLC