chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Pentala Harikrishna vs David Howell
World Blitz Championship (2017) (blitz), Riyadh KSA, rd 2, Dec-29
Caro-Kann Defense: Two Knights Attack (B10)  ·  1-0

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

Get this game explained with Decode Chess
explore this opening
find similar games 4 more Harikrishna/D Howell games
sac: 22.Bc3 PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You should register a free account to activate some of Chessgames.com's coolest and most powerful features.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
Dec-31-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: "How bad could it be to grab a pawn on c2?" Now we know.
Dec-31-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gregor Samsa Mendel: A cursory look-through with The Computer indicates that It sees nothing wrong with grabbing the c-pawn, and that black's mistakes were 23..Qe7 and especially 24..Nb6. In both cases the preferred move was ..Re8.
Dec-31-17  ChessHigherCat: <GSM: A cursory look-through with The Computer indicates that It sees nothing wrong with grabbing the c-pawn>

That shows how stupid computers can be. Look at the position at move 18: white has every single piece developed and black has diddly-squat, and it's all attributable to grabbing the pawn on c2.

Dec-31-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gregor Samsa Mendel: <CHC>--IMO, uninformed as it is, computers are only as stupid as the humans who program them. Most humans are also notoriously poor defenders. I think the chances are good that a Fischer or Korchnoi would have been able to find 23..Qe7 and grind a win out of this, even in blitz.
Jan-01-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Dionysius1: I don't know about the first sentence though. If you teach a computer the rules and it plays better than any human being ever has done 4 hours later, it looks like at least that computer is a lot more clever than the humans who programmed it.
Jan-01-18  ChessHigherCat: This is more a case of the program being even dumber than the programmers because few human players would find black's position enviable at move 18, and yet the supposedly "sound" c2 pawn grab led directly to that position by letting white chase the Q around with developing moves.
Jan-01-18  ChessHigherCat: <GSM: . I think the chances are good that a Fischer or Korchnoi would have been able to find 23..Qe7 and grind a win out of this, even in blitz>

Sorry, I don't understand, 23..Qe7 is the game line that lost. Did you mean some other move?

Jan-01-18  ChessHigherCat: : As a "P.P.S.", I think that a move that is only sound in case of superhuman calculation (and I reserve judgement on the pawn grab in that respect because I neither am nor use a supercomputer), the notation should give some kind of warning like "theoretically winning in 18 with optimal play but not for human shmos like you, who would do better to stick to the principles of sound development".
Jan-01-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gregor Samsa Mendel: <CHC>--Sorry, I meant 23..Re8.

I have always been in awe of the great players who somehow know when specific factors allow normally sound principles of chess play to be flouted. I have devoted a game collection to this:

Game Collection: Exceptions to the "rules"

Jan-01-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <GSM....I have always been in awe of the great players who somehow know when specific factors allow normally sound principles of chess play to be flouted....>

One of the major contributions of the Soviet school was their ability to break away from the tendency common at even higher levels of play towards dogmatism and widespread use of generalities in assessing positions--the concrete approach became the norm and such players as Bronstein proved most adept in adapting their game to this. Very often here, I have derided the Reinfeldian tack, but he was far from the only master to handle things in this way.

Jan-01-18  ChessHigherCat: <GSM> Yeah, I remember some game last year where Aronian broke almost every rule of thumb (traded both bishops for knights, both of which were on the rim, had two sets of doubled pawns and couldn't castle) and he still had a winning position, but being underdeveloped in exchange for pawn snatching can only pay off in a long, boring, grind-down end game of the type that I find incredibly boring, although it may work on rare occasions.
Jan-01-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  tpstar: <ChessHigherCat> Aronian vs D Cawdery, 2017
Jan-01-18  ChessHigherCat: <tpstar> Thanks, I couldn't remember the opponent's name. Aronian only had one set of doubled pawns but otherwise I remembered the position right.

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: BLITZ. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collection[what is this?]
Two Knights Caro-Kann
by kenilworthian

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2021, Chessgames Services LLC