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Viswanathan Anand vs Vladimir Kramnik
Tata Steel Masters (2018), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 7, Jan-20
Italian Game: Giuoco Pianissimo. Normal (C50)  ·  0-1

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Jan-20-18
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  chancho: This will never erase the memory of getting b.tch slapped out of his title back in 2007 and 2008, but nevertheless Kramnik is feeling the soothing effects of this win.
Jan-20-18  engineerX: I find it amazing that those two have played so many games from 1996 until 2018. Classical games: Viswanathan Anand tied Vladimir Kramnik 10 to 10, with 71 draws. Only rapid/exhibition games: Viswanathan Anand tied Vladimir Kramnik 18 to 18, with 64 draws.
Jan-20-18  Marmot PFL: Listening to Kramnik like an audio textbook.
Jan-20-18
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  chancho: Yup, gushing like a river out of it's banks.
Jan-20-18
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  MissScarlett: Kramnik didn't beat Anand in any format for about 5 years (2008-2013, but now can't stop winning.
Jan-20-18
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  DWTaylorSr: Funny how certain guys have the other guys number in chess. Anand had trouble beating Alex Sherzer back in his younger days. Sherzer was about 2500 when he retired to study medicine. Never world class like Anand, but beat him regularly.
Jan-20-18  CowChewCud: Kramnik has been winning a lot of games against Anand the last 2 years.
Jan-20-18  CowChewCud: He should find an alternative to the Giuco Piano. Not sure why it's in fashion, possibly as a means to avoid Berlin. But losing with White playing the Italian opening must be quite painful.
Jan-20-18
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  technical draw: Hey, don't bad mouth the Giuoco. It was the first opening I learned (and followed it with the deadly Danish gambit!)
Jan-20-18
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  HeMateMe: kramnik is the man who beat Kasparov. Anand is not.
Jan-20-18
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  plang: That is true but, of course, Anand defeated Kramnik in a Title match
Jan-20-18  Kaspablanca: And carlsen beat Anand in 2013 to win the crown and beat him again to regain the title, so what is the point of this issue?, we know chess championship history:}
Jan-20-18
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  MissScarlett: This, according to <cg.com>, is their 191st meeting; Kasparov and Karpov hold the record at 193.

In the post-mortem, Vlad demurred when it was suggested that their lifetime score was 50%, saying he thought he was +1 in classical chess, although, <who cares?>.

Knowing Kramnik, I wouldn't rule out the <cg.com> DB being incomplete, but, even so, the format boundaries are becoming fuzzier. A Kramnik victory last year was at the 'new classical' time control: Korchnoi Zurich Chess Challenge (2017)

Jan-20-18
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  MissScarlett: Seems Kramnik was correct - Kramnik vs Anand, 2017 - is incorrectly listed as rapid (unlike all other games in that event); correction submitted. New classical time control (45 mins + 30 sec per move) definitely qualifies as classical under FIDE's regulations.

<A ‘Rapid chess’ game is one where either all the moves must be completed in a fixed time of more than 10 minutes but less than 60 minutes for each player; or the time allotted plus 60 times any increment is of more than 10 minutes but less than 60 minutes for each player.>

The final day's blitz games (rapid by FIDE's regulations) from Zurich are missing from <cg.com>.

Jan-20-18
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  WorstPlayerEver: <MissScarlett>

They only care about engines nowadays :P

Jan-20-18
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  WannaBe: I've requested computer analysis, full game, check back in a few hours...
Jan-21-18  bcokugras: I suggest such a way for white: 37. Qd2, 38. Rxf4, 39. Qxf4 ...
Jan-21-18  troipee: Should have castled at move 10-was hoping there was going to be analysis of h3. g5 Bg3 Nh5 doesnt work.After that Black is on top
Jan-21-18
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  WannaBe: Engine Analysis have completed... =)
Jan-21-18
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  technical draw: < I suggest such a way for white: 37. Qd2, 38. Rxf4, 39. Qxf4 ...>

That's a good strategy. Don't let black move.

Jan-23-18  Ulhumbrus: 11...Nh5 gains the bishop pair and the advantage. This suggests the question : When can Black get away with the move ...g5 and when can Black not do so? One example of a possible answer is, when White can't answer the thrust ...g5 with the sacrifice Nxg5. That may be not the only way to make Black pay for the exposure of Black's king side.
Jan-26-18  CountryGirl: Split feelings on this result. I love Anand - but I also like seeing the Giuoco Piano getting kicked in the butt!
Feb-04-18
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  Honza Cervenka: Too many holes in white position. After 37.Bb5 black Queen invades via g4 with decisive effect. Since my chess childhood I remember a lesson that in Italian game or Ruy Lopez it is usually not the best idea to play Bg5 before the black castles Kingside. This game is not going to change this in my view.
Feb-28-18  PJs Studio: You are Correct Honza! Bg5 before ...O-O I have read by a few authors is second rate. In Piano and in the Ruy Lopez Arkanglish Defense.
Mar-02-18  Ulhumbrus: In the game Salwe vs Rubinstein, 1907 Salwe removes Rubinstein's king's knight by Nd5 and the result is that he cannot play Nh4 without preparation eg by Bg5.

Here Kramnik can play 11...Nh5 because White has kept his N on f3 and so can't play 12 Qxh5.

A second difference between this game and the gameSalwe vs Rubinstein, 1907 is that Rubinstein pins White's knight only after White has castled whereas Anand plays 7 Bg5 before Kramnik has castled.

Moreover in his book <Common sense in chess> Lasker says <Do not pin the the opposing king's's knight with your queen's bishop before the opponent has castled>

In the game Kramnik vs M Matlakov, 2018 (kibitz #2) Kramnik plays 6 Bg5 only after his opponent has castled by 5...0-0.

This suggests waiting for Black to castle before playing Bg5 eg by 7 Qe2.

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