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Magnus Carlsen vs Fabiano Caruana
Carlsen - Caruana World Championship Match (2018), London ENG, rd 2, Nov-10
Queen's Gambit Declined: Harrwitz Attack. Main Line Old Main Line (D37)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Nov-10-18
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  Penguincw: Well with this game being drawn, this match is now guaranteed to last at least 8 games. Yay.
Nov-10-18  Ulhumbrus: Considering that Caruana has not had any prior experience of world championship matches he has not done too badly. Spassky, Kasparov and Short all did badly in their first world championship matches.
Nov-10-18
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  MissScarlett: Steady. We're two games in - one, he was completely lost; the second, was a shedload of preparation. Come back when he wins a game.
Nov-10-18
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  PawnSac: < Strelets: This should be encouraging for Fabi: his first game with the black pieces and Carlsen doesn't get anything from the opening. >

what's important is that he finished with the advantage as black. It's a confidence booster.

Nov-10-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  saffuna: I was hoping today's final position would be an exact mirror image of yesterday's, but they agreed to a draw too early.
Nov-10-18  1d410: Why is black always a pawn up this match?
Nov-10-18  optimal play: Well, I see they got to R+2P v R+3P 12 moves earlier today.

It didn't take them long after that to realise there wasn't much point going up to 115 moves again.

Nov-10-18  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4

<39...Kf6> 40.h4 f4 41.Rb6+ Kf5 42.Rb8 h5 43.Rf8+ Ke6 44.Rh8 g6 45.Re8+ Re7 46.Ra8 Kf7 47.Kf1 Re8 48.Ra6 Re6 49.Ra8 Rb6 50.Ke2 Rb2+ 51.Kf1 Ke6 52.Ra6+ Kf5 53.Kg2 Rb3 54.Ra8 Rb6 55.Rf8+ Ke6 56.Ra8 Rc6 57.Ra1 Rd6 58.Ra8 Rb6 59.Kh3 Rb3 60.Ra6+ Kf5 61.Kg2 Rc3 62.Ra8 Rd3 63.Rc8 Rd6 64.Rf8+ Ke6 65.Re8+ Kd5 66.Rc8 Rc6 67.Ra8 Ke6 68.Ra1 - / + (-0.80) Depth: 30 dpa

Nov-10-18
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  whiteshark: Game analysis by <GM Huschenbeth>: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_J... (~ 12 mins) ENJOY!
Nov-10-18  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4

<39.h4> Rd7 40.f4 e4 41.h5 Rd2 42.Kf1 Rd1+ 43.Kg2 Rd3 44.Rb7+ Kf6 45.Rb6+ Ke7 46.Rb7+ Rd7 47.Rb5 Ke6 48.Rb6+ Rd6 49.Rb7 Kf6 50.Ra7 Rd3 51.Ra6+ Ke7 52.Ra7+ Rd7 53.Ra5 Ke6 54.Re5+ Kf6 55.Rb5 Rd2 56.Kf1 Rd1+ 57.Kg2 Rd3 58.Rb7 Rd6 59.Ra7 = / + (-0.56) Depth: 28 not dpa

Nov-10-18  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4: d 28 dpa done

1. = / + (-0.55): 37.f4 e4 38.h4 Ke7 39.h5 Rd7 40.Rg6 Kf7 41.Rb6 Rd3 42.Rb7+ Kf6 43.Rb6+ Ke7 44.Rb7+ Rd7 45.Rb6 Rd6 46.Rb8 Kf7 47.Rb7+ Kf6 48.Kf1 Ra6 49.Ke2 Ra2+ 50.Kf1 Rd2 51.Rb6+ Ke7 52.Rb7+ Rd7 53.Rb6 Rd1+ 54.Kg2 Rd6 55.Rb8

2. = / + (-0.57): 37.h4 f4 38.Rg6 Ke8 39.h5 Kf7 40.Rc6 Rb7 41.Ra6 Rd7 42.Rc6 Rd2 43.Rc7+ Kf6 44.Ra7 Rd8 45.Rb7 Rd2 46.Rb6+ Kf5 47.Rb7 g6 48.hxg6 Kxg6 49.Rb6+ Kg5 50.Re6 Re2 51.Rd6 h5

Nov-10-18  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4: d 27 dpa done

<1. = / + (-0.36): 35.f4> e4 36.Rb5 g6 37.Rb6 h5 38.Rb2 Ke6 39.f3 exf3+ 40.Kxf3 Ra3+ 41.Kg2 Rd3 42.d7 Kxd7 43.Rb6 Rd6 44.Rb7+ Ke6 45.Kg3 Rd1 46.Rg7 Rg1+ 47.Kf2 Kf6 48.Rb7 Rc1 49.Kg3 Rc6 50.Rb3 Ra6 51.Rb8 Kf7 52.Kh4 Ra2 53.Rb7+ Kf6 54.Rb6+ Kg7 55.h3

2. = / + (-0.43): 35.h4 Kxd6 36.f4 Kc5 37.Rb8 Ra4 38.fxe5 Rxh4 39.Rf8 Kd5 40.Rxf5 g6 41.Kg3 Rh1 42.Rf8 Kxe5 43.f4+ Ke6 44.Re8+ Kf7 45.Ra8 Re1 46.Kf3 h5 47.Rc8 Rf1+ 48.Kg3 Rg1+ 49.Kf2 Rd1 50.Kf3 Rf1+ 51.Kg3

Nov-10-18  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4: d 24 done

1. = / + (-0.48): 34...Kxd6 35.f4 Kc5 36.Re4 exf4 37.Rxf4 g6 38.h4 h5 39.Rf3 Kd4 40.Kg3 Ke4 41.Re3+ Kd5 42.Kf4 f6 43.Rd3+ Ke6 44.Re3+ Kf7 45.Kg3 Ra4 46.f4 Ra5 47.Kf3 Ra1 48.Ke4 Ra4+ 49.Kf3 Rb4 50.Kg3 Rc4 51.Kf3 Ra4

2. = / + (-0.48): 34...g6 35.f4 exf4 36.Rxf4 Kxd6 37.Kg3 Ke5 38.f3 f6 39.Re4+ Kf5 40.Rf4+ Ke6 41.Re4+ Kf7 42.Rb4 Ra6 43.h4 Ke6 44.Rg4 Kf5 45.Rf4+ Ke5 46.Rg4 f5 47.Rb4 Kf6 48.Kf4 Rc6 49.Kg3 Ke5 50.Rb5+ Ke6 51.Rb4 Rd6 52.Rb7 Ke5 53.Rb5+ Ke6 54.Ra5 Rc6 55.h5 g5 56.Ra2 Rd6 57.Re2+ Kd5 58.f4

3. = / + (-0.48): 34...Kc6 35.f4 exf4 36.Rxf4 Kxd6 37.Kg3 g6 38.h4 Ke5 39.f3 h5 40.Rb4 Ra5 41.Re4+ Kf5 42.Rf4+ Ke6 43.Rb4 Rd5 44.Rb6+ Kf5 45.Rb4 f6 46.Rf4+ Ke6 47.Re4+ Re5 48.Rc4 Re3 49.Rc6+ Kf5 50.Rc5+ Re5 51.Rc6 Rd5 52.Ra6 Ke5 53.f4+ Kf5 54.Rb6 Rd3+ 55.Kf2 Rd2+ 56.Ke3

Nov-10-18  ajile: Position from diceman's computer analysis following the 17.Nxf7 sac variation:


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Analysis by Rybka 3 32-bit : 22 ply

1. (0.67): 28.Kh2 Rf8 29.Rxa7 Nxf4 30.Rdd7 Qxe5 31.Rxg7+ Qxg7 32.Rxg7+ Kxg7 33.Qf2 Nd5 34.Qd4+ Kg8 35.Qe5 Kf7 36.c4 Ne7 37.Qf4+ Ke8 38.Qd6 Rf5 39.Qxe6 Rc5 40.Qxb6 Rc6 41.Qb8+ Rc8 42.Qa7 Bxc4 43.a5

2. (0.69): 28.R1d4 Rf8 29.Qd2 Qf5 30.Rxa7 Nxf4 31.Rxf4 Qxf4 32.Qxf4 Rxf4 33.Rxa6 Kf7 34.g4 Rc4 35.Kh2 g5 36.Kg2 Rf4 37.Rxb6 Rxa4

<diceman: 1) =0.00 (28 ply) 17...Kxf7 18.Bxd6 Rxd6 19.Bh5+ Kg8 20.e4 Nf4 21.Rxd6 Qxh5 22.Rd8+ Kh7 23.e5+ Ng6 24.f4 b6 25.h3 Bb7 26.Rd7 Ba6 27.Rfd1 Kg8 28.Qe4 Rf8 29.g4 Qxh3 30.Qxg6 Qg3+ 31.Kh1 Qh3+ 32.Kg1>

Better than the game continuation? I think so especially given the complications and pressure on Black.

Nov-10-18  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4: d 24 dpa done

1. = / + (-0.45): 34.h4 Ke6 35.f4 exf4 36.Kf3 Ra4 37.Rb7 Rd4 38.Re7+ Kf6 39.Rb7 g6 40.d7 Ke6 41.Rb4 Rxd7 42.Kxf4 Rd3 43.f3 f6 44.Ke4 Rd8 45.Rb7 Rd1 46.Rb4 Rd6 47.Kf4 Ra6 48.Rc4 Kd5 49.Rc8 Ra1 50.Rd8+ Ke6 51.Re8+ Kf7 52.Rh8

2. = / + (-0.49): 34.f4 exf4 35.h4 f6 36.h5 Ra5 37.Kf3 Rxh5 38.Rb7+ Kxd6 39.Rxg7 Ke5 40.Rb7 Kf5 41.Rb5+ Kg6 42.Rb2 Rh4 43.Kg2 Rg4+ 44.Kf3 h5 45.Rb6 Rh4 46.Ke4 f3+ 47.Kxf3 Ra4 48.Rb8 h4 49.Rh8 Kg5 50.Kg2 Ra3 51.Rh7 Kg4 52.Rg7+ Kf4 53.Rh7 h3+ 54.Kh2 f5 55.Rh4+ Ke5 56.Rh7 Kf4 57.Rh4+

3. = / + (-0.51): 34.Kg3 Ra3 35.Rb7+ Ke6 36.h4 h5 37.Kg2 Rd3 38.Re7+ Kf6 39.f4 exf4 40.Rd7 g6 41.Kh2 Rd2 42.Kg2 Ke6 43.Re7+ Kxd6 44.Rxf7 Ke5 45.Rb7 Rd6 46.Rb5+ Rd5 47.Rb6 Rd6 48.Rb5+ Rd5

Nov-10-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: Everything considered, this was a very positive game for Caruana. After barely hanging on with White yesterday, having the better of it with Black had to be encouraging.
Nov-10-18  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4 Pro w32: d 24 dpa

1. = (-0.24): 28.Rc1 Kd7 29.c5 Rc8(T) 30.Rb1 Rxc5 31.Rxb7+ Kxd6 32.Rxa7 Rc7 33.Ra8 Kc6 34.Ra6+ Kc5 35.Kg2 Kb5 36.Ra8 g6 37.Kg3 Rc5 38.Ra7 Rg5+ 39.Kf4 Rf5+ 40.Ke4 g5 41.Ke3 Rf4 42.h3 h5 43.a6 Kb6 44.Ra8 Ra4 45.Rg8 Ra3+ 46.Kd4

2. = (-0.24): 28.c5 Kd7 29.Ra1 Rc8(T)

Nov-10-18  Jambow: I dragged myself out of bed looked at the game online and thought a rest day already? Same exact pieces on the board on one side of the board for a draw with black a pawn up. Ok that is both interesting and encouraging for Caruana... Both players gained an advantage with black and were unable to convert.
Nov-10-18  Jambow: Ok except Caruana was never pressing for a win like Magnus was yesterday with black and it never really got past a draw.

Then Magnus wasn't pushing for a win with white either so that is a bit interesting.

Nov-10-18  Zibbit: I have quick video analysis of this game here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC6...
Nov-10-18  zanzibar: In the press conference Magnus says he <"completely underestimated this plan with 14...Ne7">, playing <"a miscalculation"> with 15.Ne5, and <"just missed"> 15...Bd6.

https://youtu.be/l-8TINwB_Ig?t=157

As for 17.Nxf7 Carlsen says, with asked if he considered the move, <"I have <some> instinct">, but he <"just couldn't make it work">. He thought it <"way better equity in playing it safe">, fearing Caruana's <prep>:

https://youtu.be/l-8TINwB_Ig?t=531

In a sense, Caruana today won the easier path for Black to equalize due to psychology, imo.

.

Nov-10-18  zanzibar: BTW- When Caruana finally gets his chance to answer, he hedges on the depth of his preparation, but does say that he <"had more than one option"> and <"wasn't too concerned"> about the 17.Nxf7 variation.

A good poker face, or just being honest? Or maybe a bit of both!

Nov-10-18  zanzibar: (I still think 17.Nxf7 would have made a better chess game, even if the outcome would have been the same).
Nov-10-18
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  Penguincw: Video analysis of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtl....
Nov-10-18  RookFile: Good game by Caruana, he played it like Capa would have.
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