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Vladimir Kramnik vs Anish Giri
Tata Steel Masters (2019), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 2, Jan-13
English Opening: King's English. Four Knights Variation Flexible Line (A28)  ·  0-1



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  ChessHigherCat: I can't remember seeing anybody lose on time with this increment system. Can they just stay at 0:00 with impunity until the opponent moves and then get an automatic increment?
Jan-13-19  Nisjesram: 37.. nf5 , forking queen and rook, thus forcing exchange of bishop with knight.

All over for kramnik, i guess.


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  ChessHigherCat: I think Nb5, preventing any funny stuff with g7
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  ChessHigherCat: Sorry, I meant Nf5
Jan-13-19  WorstPlayerEver: Seems Giri switched to ping-pong.
Jan-13-19  raadsheer147: Hup, Giri!! Wijk aan Zee is van jou!
Jan-13-19  WorstPlayerEver: Eigenlijk staat Giri een toren voor, die loper is hoogstens een pion waard. Beetje een lachwekkende vertoning dit.
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  ChessHigherCat: <WPE> That's why Ulhumbrus said the advantage passes to black after e5, because e5 reduced the bishop to a sort of pawn
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  Penguincw: Wow. So the 2 players who lost with white yesterday, now have winning positions with black.

Something tells me this tournament will have more "0-1" than "1-0".

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  ChessHigherCat: Yeah Giri, bravo!
Jan-13-19  Ulhumbrus: <WorstPlayerEver: Eigenlijk staat Giri een toren voor, die loper is hoogstens een pion waard. Beetje een lachwekkende vertoning dit.>

This comes out in the google translator as < Actually, Giri represents a tower, that runner is worth a pawn at most. Bit of a laughable display this.>

<ChessHigherCat: <WPE> That's why Ulhumbrus said the advantage passes to black after e5, because e5 reduced the bishop to a sort of pawn>

That is not however the reason why I said that the advantage passed to Black after e5.

If White is to make his centre count he has to use it as a weapon in some way eg either use it to shelter his game from a counter-attack or else use the centre itself as a weapon by advancing it.

Lasker may have given an indication as to when to advance it. According to Lasker in Lasker's manual of chess page 87, column 1, second paragraph < ...White should strive to hold the centre without advancing pawns until he has his rooks ready: then he may push his pawns with the intention of opening lines for these powerful pieces>

Can we say that 19 e5 serves to open lines for the rooks? No, because immediately after that Kramnik does nothing with his rooks but plays 20 Bf3.

The computer gives a move which does open lines for White's rooks and that is 19 g3! opening the f file or the g file

This suggests that it is the computer's suggestion of 19 g3 which applies correctly the meaning of Lasker's advice.

Another thing is that Kramnik's centre does give him the advantage but he has to find the correct way to make it count.

To make the thing more complete, White's bishop does not have to be much more mobile than a pawn, if the pawn is valuable enough, for example if it obstructs the d file for Black or gains space or controls a square such as f8 which Black needs for the defence. Unfortunately for Kramnik his attack is not quite strong enough to make the bishop valuable enough. Improve White's attack just a little and the bishop on d6 might contribute to a win for White.

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  Penguincw: After starting out +0,-7,=7 vs. Kramnik, Giri has now won 3 straight classical games vs. the Russian.
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  ChessHigherCat: <Ulhumbrus: So much for Google translator! <Eigenlijk staat Giri een toren voor, die loper is hoogstens een pion waard. Beetje een lachwekkende vertoning dit.> =

<Giri is really a rook up, the bishop is worth a pawn at most. Bit of a ridiculous performance, this!>

Sorry, I just assumed you meant that e5 reduced the bishop to the role of a pawn, because that was my first thought when e5 was played. It's always only conditionally true, of course, because the bishop can usually escape at some point and regain its full destructive powers.

Jan-13-19  WorstPlayerEver: Yes, I made my comment after White played 20. Qe4, which was actually good for another Rook. White had some kind of an initiative when the center pawns were still aboard.
Jan-13-19  WorstPlayerEver: Corr 40. Qe4
Jan-13-19  John Abraham: Wonderful performance from Anish
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  HeMateMe: What would Fred Reinfield do?
Jan-13-19  zanzibar: Write a book?
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  luzhin: Why didn't Giri grab the pawn with 25...Qxd4? Because then 26.Qxf7+ Kxf7 27.Bd5 double check and mate. Lovely!
Jan-15-19  cormier:

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Analysis by Houdini 4 <d 21 dpa done

1. - / + (-0.87): 30.Rxg7> Qh4 31.Rfg2 Qf4 32.R7g3 Qxa4 33.Be2 a6 34.Rg7 Qe4 35.R7g3 Rc2 36.Bf3 Rxg2 37.Bxe4 Rxg1+ 38.Kxg1 Rg8 39.Rxg8+ Kxg8 40.Bxd5 Bxd5 41.Kf2 Kg7 42.Ke3 Kg6 43.Kd4 Bc6 44.Bc7 b5 45.Ba5 Kf5 46.Bd2 h5 47.Kc5 Bb7 48.Kb6 Bc8

2. - + (-1.87): 30.Rd2 Nf4 31.Rd4 Ng6 32.Be4 Rc4 33.Rxc4 Bxc4 34.Qd4 Nxe5 35.Bxe5 Qxd4 36.Bxd4 Rxe4 37.Bxg7+ Kh7 38.Bc3 h5 39.Rg5 h4 40.a5 b5 41.Kg1 a6 42.Kf2 Re2+ 43.Kg1 Rc2 44.Bb4 Be6 45.Rh5+ Kg6 46.Rxh4 Kf5 47.Rd4 Ke5 48.Rd2 Rc4 49.Bd6+ Ke4 50.Kg2 Ke3 51.Rd1 b4

Jan-15-19  cormier:

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Analysis by Houdini 4 <d 22 dpa done

1. = / + (-0.51): 26.Qe4> Qd7 27.Kg1 f5 28.Qb1 Nf4 29.Bd6 Kh8 30.a5 b5 31.Bg4 fxg4 32.Rxf4 Be6 33.Bc5 a6 34.Rg2 Qc6 35.Rgf2 Qd5 36.Qb2 Red8 37.Qc3 h5 38.Qc2 b4 39.Qg6

2. - / + (-0.88): 26.Bb2 Bd5 27.Bxd5 Qxd5+ 28.Qf3 Qxf3+ 29.Rgxf3 Rc7 30.Kg1 Rd8 31.Rb3 Ne7 32.a5 bxa5 33.Rb5 Rd5 34.Rb8+ Nc8 35.Rf3 Kh7 36.Rc3 Rxc3 37.Bxc3 Nb6 38.Rb7 Kg6 39.Rxa7 Na4 40.Ra6+ Kf5 41.Ba1 Rb5 42.Kf2 Ke4 43.e6 Rf5+ 44.Kg2 Rg5+ 45.Kf2 fxe6 46.Rxe6+ Kd5

Jan-15-19  cormier: i - Houdini 4 Pro w32, Blitz 10m inc

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Analysis by Houdini 4 <d 22 dpa done

1. = (0.00): 25.Qd2> Qd7 26.Bb2 Rcd8 27.d5 Qf5 28.Bg4 Qe4+ 29.Bf3 Qf5 30.Bg4

2. = / + (-0.59): 25.Qe4 Rc4 26.Qf5 Re6 27.Bh5 Qd7 28.Bb2 Bb7+ 29.Kg1 Rc7 30.Qd3 Qd5 31.Qf3 Qa5 32.Qd3 Bd5 33.Bd1 Rec6 34.Rg4 Bc4 35.Qe3 Be6 36.Rg3 Bd5 37.Qd2 Qa6

Jan-16-19  morfishine: Kramnik missed the shot <31.Bf8> hitting the Black Queen and <g7> simultaneously
Jan-16-19  electrocloud: <morfishine> Giri's 30...Nf4 is a 'pretend-sacrifice'. The black rooks are too much to handle after 31. Bf8 Rxf8 32. Rxd8 Rfxd8 since 33. Rxg7 doesnt work after 33...Ng6 34. Rxg6 fxg6 35. Qxg6 Rc1+ 36. Kg2 Rg8 pinning the white queen.
Mar-10-19  Kirth Gersen: 35...Ne7 was an incredible resource Kramnik probably missed from afar.
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