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Jorden van Foreest vs Magnus Carlsen
Tata Steel Masters (2019), Alkmaar NED, rd 5, Jan-16
Sicilian Defense: Lasker-Pelikan. Sveshnikov Variation (B33)  ·  0-1



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  chancho: And into the foreest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul. ...
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  diceman: When Jorden van Foreest resigns, does it make a sound?
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  An Englishman: Good Morning: "Foreest Dumped?" Seriously, though, why did White repeatedly refuse to take the h5 pawn?
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  diceman: <An Englishman: Good Morning: "Foreest Dumped?"

Seriously, though, why did White repeatedly refuse to take the h5 pawn?>

That's what the sesse computer liked at about move 18, when the white queen was on b4. (advantage to white)

After the queen went to b6, it didn't like it. The e2 bishop was holding the c4 pawn, it thought it shouldn't trade
c4 for h5.

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  saffuna: <Seriously, though, why did White repeatedly refuse to take the h5 pawn?>

He said he wanted to play more safely.

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  HeMateMe: Chopping wood!
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  saffuna: It would be difficult for us to be woodpushers without a Foreest.
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  HeMateMe: Foreest certainly has guts to jump into this gladiator pit.
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  Penguincw: 4 of van Foreest's 5 games so far have ended in 0-1.

If Carlsen had drew this game, his live rating would've been just 0.2 above Caruana for World #1.

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  FSR: Whoa! The Draw King won a game?
Jan-18-19  I Like Fish:

when a game...
gets thrown at you...
like that...
then you have to grab it...
or you'd be guilty...
of negligence...

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  diceman: <An Englishman:

why did White repeatedly refuse to take the h5 pawn?>

"I can't see the Foreest for the trees," he o<pine>d.

Magnus <axed> him.

Jan-18-19  WDenayer: This line won't survive much longer. Black is more than just okay. I just don't see the reason for playing this line, except that it avoids the main line. Carlsen should have won the first game of WC against it.
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: According to the Guardian UK, this game snapped a streak of 21 consecutive draws for Carlsen under classical time controls. The article mentions that this was longer than Giri's longest draw streak, and longer than Fischer's 20 game winning streak.

Let's not forget--none of us could have drawn 21 straight games vs. his competition.

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  thegoodanarchist: What's wrong with 34.d8=Q?

I guess 34...Rxd8 35.Rxd8 Nxg1 -+ is the answer to my question.

Jan-22-19  Isilimela: After so many draws Magnus must have thought:

"I don't know how the hel i can
But let's begin with the Pelikan!"

Jan-27-19  cormier:

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Analysis by Houdini 4 <d 23 dpa

1. = (0.16): 16...b5> 17.cxb5 axb5 18.Kb1 0-0 19.Bg5 Qb6 20.Be3 Qb8 21.Bg5

2. + / = (0.32): 16...e4 17.Na4 b5 18.Nb6 bxc4 19.Qxc4 Ra7 20.Nxd7 Rxd7 21.Qa4 Bf6 22.b3 Qc7+ 23.Kb1 Qc3 24.Bd4 Bxd4 25.Qxd4 Qxd4 26.Rxd4 Ra7 27.Ra4 a5 28.b4 Ne5 29.Be2 Kd7 30.Rxa5 Rxa5 31.bxa5 Ra8 32.a6 Nd3 33.Bxd3 exd3 34.Rd1 Rxa6 35.Rxd3 Ra8 36.Kb2

Feb-07-19  yurikvelo: multiPV of van Foreest mistakes

Feb-07-19  yurikvelo: <What's wrong with 34.d8=Q>

34...Rxd8 35.Rxd8

-9,24 35. ... Rxe2 36.Rf1 Rxe3 37.Kb1 Nxh4
-7,35 35. ... Nxg1 36.Bc4 Nf3 37.a3 Nxh4

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  MissScarlett: <You have probably seen Magnus Carlsen telling an interviewer after Round 5 of The Tata Steel Chess Tournament: "I was thinking at several points during the game: how would AlphaZero have approached this?">

<NIC email>, <Game Changer, two months later: has anything changed?>, 29.03.2019.

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