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Magnus Carlsen vs Richard Rapport
Tata Steel Masters (2019), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 8, Jan-20
Sicilian Defense: Paulsen. Bastrikov Variation (B47)  ·  1-0



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Jan-21-19  rogge: <In point of fact, I don't hate this chess player> Ok, <Sarge>.

I have to agree with <TGA> for once, <Communication is about 80% non-verbal, which of course is all lost in this format.>

Jan-21-19  john barleycorn: <Sargon: OMG! ...>

Too weak, too implausible.

There is your problem.

I know what I am talking about.

Believe me.

Jan-21-19  frogbert: <It’s your tone.>

It's that easy. One that seems to be quite easily offended, isn't really in a position to complain about others being somewhat easily offended.

On a slightly related note; if one runs a site and wants an international crowd around, it might be an idea to downplay one's patriotism and personal/national favouritism slightly. But of course, if one wants to make one's site a purely national arena, then it's all good and one will eventually succeed. :)

Jan-21-19  Dave12: 32.Rd5 is so neat in this position. Reminds me the 28.Re5 in Carlsen vs Anand, 2012
Jan-21-19  johnkr: GAme is difficult to analyze. It just seemed to me that Black never had very much counterplay. And it occurs to me that the position is similar to a game from Bronstein's book about Zurich Tournament 1953, which is the game Najdorf-Petrosian. In that game Black's hope for counterplay was on the q-side, to advance with a5,a4 etc. Here Carlsen obviously prevented this plan, perhaps an idea was for Black to maneuver his knight to d4 but it would have taken many moves. Consequently Black's setup with the pawn c5 "controlling" the center turned out to be useless, and White could slowly constrict Black and build his king-side attack. Fascinating.
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  OhioChessFan: After sleeping on it, I've decided I over-reacted to <Sargon>. It's not an admin account after all. Apologies for jumping down your throat.
Jan-21-19  frogbert: <OCF> When the non-admin account often is used to express admin opinions and decisions, this artificial border you mention becomes *very* blurred, imnsho. ;)
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  OhioChessFan: Yes, agree there <frogbert>
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  ChessHigherCat: I would like to add what the Nigerians call a GWOW (General World of Warning): Never use irony online unless you are sure that the entire audience is A) clever enough and/or B) knows you well enough to get the joke AND C) is well-intentioned towards you, because your enemies will deliberately ignore the irony and take your message at face value if it's to your disadvantage.

In this case, if Sargon's statement was meant ironically, prerequisites B and C, at least, were not satisfied, so it was ill-advised saying it.

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  Diademas: <<ChessHigherCat>: Never use irony online unless [...]>

Jan-21-19  csmath: I think Magnus is right on this one, he keeps on playing fairly consistent but sometimes he gets position that is just nice enough for him to shine. It seems after 24 moves Black is just worse no matter what. That black knight on d7 just sucks, doing nothing and going nowhere. This is a great game, and quite dominating, too bad for Rapport.
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  MissScarlett: Easy. He sets the expiry date of my premium membership from the current <Jan-13-2020> to, say, <Jan-13-2060>. That should cover it; I may be tenacious of life, but I'm not greedy.
Jan-22-19  fabelhaft: Carlsen didn’t think this game was anything special, but it sure wasn’t much wrong he did in it. Has to be his clearly best game in Tata this year.
Jan-22-19  frogbert: <nok: I only see patriotism on one side here.>

The operating term being "here", I suppose. :) If I cared even one bit, I could've provided a few examples from the dozens available around the site, but alas - I don't and won't.

I mainly commented on tone and hypocrisy; I'm not up anyone's ass and I'm not the least offended. :) However, I'm more than a little amused by obvious shortcomings in both people and business skills. Have a good day, everyone!

Jan-22-19  ajile: A lot of thin skinned people around here. Remarks like that on gaming forums are considered normal even by admins.

As to the entertainment value of the site it appears that fights in the comment sections now beat out actual chess game play. I mean 95% of all top games now consist of the same 4-5 openings which have been analyzed to death.

So what is the future of chess? Online it is (apparently) doing great in blitz formats but how long can even this be maintained?

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  Gypsy: This, actually, was a very entertaining game.
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  HeMateMe: you don't see MC light it up tactically like this so much. I guess Rapp isn't the best player, so it's a little easier to find weaknesses here than against a super GM. Keep piling in the pieces, forcing your opponent to make kingside pawn moves that lead to more weak squares. Kasparov 101.
Jan-30-19  cormier:

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Analysis by Houdini 4 d 24 dpa done

1. + - (1.59): 29.Rfe1 Nb6 30.Bxf6 Bf8 31.Nc3 e3 32.Be5 Qxg2+ 33.Kxg2 Rbd8 34.Rxe3 Rxd1 35.Nxd1 Rd8 36.Nc3 Rd2+ 37.Re2 Rxe2+ 38.Nxe2 Kf7 39.Kf3 Ke6 40.Ke4 g6 41.Ng1 Nd7 42.Nf3 Be7 43.Bg7 Nf6+ 44.Bxf6 Kxf6 45.Ne5 Ke6 46.Nc6 Bh4 47.Nb8 a5 48.Nc6 Be1

2. + - (1.45): 29.Rde1 Bd8 30.Rxe4 Rxe4 31.Qxe4 Nf8 32.f5 Qf7 33.Re1 Rc8 34.Kg2 Qd7 35.Re2 Qf7 36.Be1 h6 37.Bg3 Qd7 38.Bf4 a5 39.Nc3 Qd4 40.Qb7 Qd7 41.Qd5+ Qxd5+ 42.Nxd5 Kh7 43.Re8 Nd7 44.Bd6 h5 45.Kf3

Jan-30-19  cormier:

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Analysis by Houdini 4 d 23 dpa done

1. + / = (0.52): 23...Rfe8 24.Nd5 Bf8 25.Rde1 Bxd5 26.Qxd5 Qxd5 27.exd5 exf4 28.gxf4 Rxe1 29.Rxe1 f5 30.Kf2 Kf7 31.Bf1 g6 32.Kf3 Nf6 33.Bd3 Re8 34.Rxe8 Nxe8 35.a3 Bg7 36.b4 Bc3 37.Bc2 Ke7 38.h3 Nf6

2. + / - (0.74): 23...Qa7 24.Nd5 Bxd5 25.Qxd5 Rfe8 26.Qd3 Nf6 27.Bf3 Bf8 28.Kg2 Qe7 29.fxe5 dxe5 30.Rd2 Qe6 31.Rfd1 Rb7 32.Qe3 Rd7 33.Rxd7 Nxd7 34.g4 Nf6 35.g5 Ng4 36.Qc3 Be7

Jan-30-19  cormier:

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Analysis by Houdini 4 <d 24 dpa done

1. = (0.13): 15...Ne5> 16.Qd2 Nc6 17.f4 f6 18.Bh3 Kh8 19.Nc3 Qb7 20.Bg4 Nd4 21.Ne2 Nc6 22.Rf2 Kg8 23.Bf3 Qc7 24.Kg2 Kh8 25.Qe3 Bd7 26.Qd2 Be8 27.Bc3

2. + / = (0.37): 15...Bb7 16.Qc3 e5 17.Qc2 Nf6 18.Nc3 Rfe8 19.Bh3 h5 20.f4 exf4 21.Rxf4 Qa5 22.Bf5 Bc6 23.Rdf1 Rb7 24.Kg2 Bd8 25.Qd3 Bd7 26.Rd1 Bxf5 27.Rxf5 Rd7 28.h3 h4

Jan-31-19  siamesedream: Magnus confesses he actually just blundered a pawn against Richard Rapport: <"I just stumbled onto this beautiful construct by pure luck!">

<"I was just feeling so ridiculously dumb, so that was why it was kind of hard for me to feel good about the game, because even though after that it went swimmingly it was all based on a very, very basic oversight!">

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  AylerKupp: <<siamesedream> Magnus confesses he actually just blundered a pawn against Richard Rapport: <"I just stumbled onto this beautiful construct by pure luck!">

That's funny. In a moment of chess blindness in at about 14:50 GM Jan Gustafsson says that after 24...Rfe8, 25.e5 is not yet a threat with Rapport thinking "everything is defended in my camp", since after 25.e5 Bxg2 26.Qxg2 dxe5 "White is not actually winning material because 27.Rxd7 Qxd7 28.Qxb7 (???) Rxb7 (???) "everything is defended". But after 27...Qxd7 there is no longer a Black queen on b7 so 28.Qxb7 is not possible and 2...Rxb7 is also not possible unless White plays 28.Qb7??. It's somewhat gratifying to see that even a GM can have a rare moment of chess blindness just like me, although in my case it was never so rare.

Then Gustafsson "recovers" by saying that "But Carlsen still goes for this position" (after 25.e5) "His reasoning is not to win material here but to increase his positional domination. He's opened the d-file for his rook, the g-file is open, and now the knight joins the party and occupies the d5 square, a perfect square for the White knight, and you can see the difference in activity."

I wonder what he thought after reading Carlsen's tweet. I hope that he was able to laugh about it!

Feb-01-19  starry2013: There was actually an interview where he confesses to Gustafsson.
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  Check It Out: <starry2013> I watched that interview and Gustaffson told Carlsen he might be too honest.
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  OhioChessFan: <37...g5> 38. Rxe4 Rd6 39. Bxe5 Rxe5 40. Rxe5 fxe5 41. Rxg5 Bg7 42. Qh5 Qf8

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White has some work to do. I don't know if Black can hold this a Pawn down, but he is at least breathing and still has a few thoughts of a perpetual.

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