chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
David Navara vs Magnus Carlsen
Gashimov Memorial (2019), Shamkir AZE, rd 3, Apr-02
Sicilian Defense: Lasker-Pelikan. Sveshnikov Variation (B33)  ·  0-1

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 4 times; par: 79 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 9 more Navara/Carlsen games
sac: 57...Rxd5+ PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: At the top of the page we display the common English name for the opening, followed by the ECO code (e.g. "B33"). The ECO codes are links that take you to opening pages.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

A COMPUTER ANNOTATED SCORE OF THIS GAME IS AVAILABLE.  [CLICK HERE]

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Apr-02-19  Keyser Soze: I didn't get 19. Rxe7 ? Not much compensation, right?
Apr-02-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: I'm sure Navara missed something when he played 19.Rxe7, or maybe he thought 19.Rg3 was worse than it apparently was. Down at my level, it's hard to see at first that after 19.Rxe7 gxf4 (forced, since 19....Qxe7 20.Bxd6), the rook has nowhere to go.
Apr-02-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: Anyway, itís been a grand battle.
Apr-02-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: After ♕x♕ the probability of a draw has risen considerably.
Apr-02-19  Ulhumbrus: Why have the moves not appeared on the board?
Apr-02-19  Ulhumbrus: The computer evaluations on the official site suggest that Carlsen has indeed made mistakes but not as many as his opponent so that the overall result is that White has got outplayed.
Apr-02-19  ChessHigherCat: having looked on Chessbomb https://www.chessbomb.com/arena/201... I say Carlsen.

Who say Navara?

Navara say Navara!

Apr-02-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: <Game starts 7:00AM EST - it is now 12:26pm *> The moment Navara resigned.
Apr-02-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Diademas: 0-1 Resigned
Apr-02-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Diademas: Carlsen back over 2850 for the first time since 2016.
Apr-02-19  rogge: A rejuvenated Carlsen. He played very well in Tata Steel too.
Apr-02-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Diademas: Yes. Magnus 28 will be a tough contender.
Apr-02-19  KnightVBishop: classical king magnus is back
Apr-02-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tabanus: Site of this game is given as "0:00:33-0:32:33". And similar apparently for all live games in CG.

Sometimes it's hard to be an editor.

Apr-02-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sargon: Navara was no match for Carlsen in the endgame...
Apr-02-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: David Navara was asked what is the difference between him and Magnus Carlsen:

https://youtu.be/P3k64a9G0xQ?t=213

Apr-02-19  frogbert: <Carlsen back over 2850 for the first time since 2016.>

Going by live rating, he was above 2850 last year, too. This is possibly the only area in which my old Live Top List's features were better than 2700chess.com's: it maintained complete history of all list updates.

If Carlsen drops below 2850 again by the end of this tournament, most ppl will forget that he was 2850+ live during the event - and there'll be no easily searchable source.

<Diademas> You might want to figure out when Carlsen was 2850 last year, for fun? :)

Apr-02-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Diademas: <frogbert: <Diademas> You might want to figure out when Carlsen was 2850 last year, for fun? :)>

I'll give it a shot. After his win against Aronian in round 3 of Norway Chess? Can't remember the date, June 1st or there about.

Apr-02-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Diademas: Missed it by two days if the rest is correct. May 30th. Carlsen vs Aronian, 2018
Apr-02-19  csmath: <David Navara was asked what is the difference between him and Magnus Carlsen: https://youtu.be/P3k64a9G0xQ?t=213>

:-)
Navara is quite humble guy. But this is what Kasparov said as well. There is some intuition that others cannot match. Carlsen makes mistakes but in general he has faster and better understanding of the positions. Kasparov got that when they were training together, Magnus just got the ideas and grasps of the positions very quickly. This is why he is so good in rapid and blitz. Sometimes after the games he did not lose he looks distracted and dejected, this is when he knows that he did not play optimal moves, even then he knows better than the people analyzing. I think his analysis time must be real short.

Apr-02-19  Fanques Fair: 41-f6 is an inexplicable move . I think another move might well leave White in the game.
Apr-02-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <Fanques Fair: 41-f6 is an inexplicable move . I think another move might well leave White in the game.>

It was the best move available, I understand. E.g. after 41.Ra6 Rf4+ 42. Ke3 Rh3+ 43. Ke2 Re4+ 44. Kd2 Rg4, White has to play 45. Bd5, and loses the f-pawn anyway.

Apr-06-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: I guess <MC> will continue to utilize the 8...Nb8 line until someone comes up with a refutation.

15 years ago it was just a sideline, a note, in the Opening Book on The Sveshnikov

Apr-06-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: Robert James Fischer peaked in his late twenties, 28 & 29. In 1971-2 he was the most dominant player the modern chess world had ever seen.

I read that human chess playing ability peaks around age 32. Of course, Fischer quit at that age (literally, he resigned the WC title), so we have no data to judge if he was better in 1975 than he was in 1971-2

I don't think Magnus will be affected by mental illness as Bobby was, especially paranoia about the Soviets! (since they aren't in charge of Russia ;) )

And even if they were still in charge, it wouldn't bother Carlsen.

My point is, maybe all the people talking about MC resurgent are right! Maybe we will see the best chess ever seen from him for the next 4 years. That would be the best chess the world has ever seen from any human (or goldfish).

That is an enticing prospect for chess. See the Wunderkind, the Mozart of Chess, at his finest level of all time.

Still, he won't beat Alpha Zero in a match :(

Apr-09-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  Eyal: <keypusher: I'm sure Navara missed something when he played 19.Rxe7, or maybe he thought 19.Rg3 was worse than it apparently was. Down at my level, it's hard to see at first that after 19.Rxe7 gxf4 (forced, since 19....Qxe7 20.Bxd6), the rook has nowhere to go.>

I think it's quite clear what Navara didn't like about 19.Rg3 - it also loses an exchange after 19...Ne4. It's interesting, though, that according to the engines the difference between 19.Rxe7 and 19.Rg3 is one between (at least) nearly lost for White and near equality (after, say, 19.Rg3 Ne4 20. Be3 Nxg3+ 21. hxg3 Rb8 22. Bd3 and just playing the position) - so that the losing blunder might very well have been 19.Rxe7 rather than 18.Re3. An illustration that this is far from obvious from a human viewpoint was provided during the live broadcast when Naiditsch - a very strong player himself, who was doing the commentary - just dismissed 18.Re3 as a blunder that loses an exchange, explaining the relevant tactics after both 19.Rxe7 & Rg3 without giving any consideration to which of the two might be a better way of losing it.

search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
MKD's Sicilian Defense Black 2
by MKD
Carlsen's Unbeaten Streak
by Penguincw
Zugged's 2019 in 2019
by Zugged
Sveshnikov Variation
from Siciliana Variante Sveshnikov by Gerareis
Sicilian Defense: Lasker-Pelikan. Sveshnikov Variation
from A Siciliana de Magnus Carlsen by Gerareis
Sicilian Defense: Lasker-Pelikan. Sveshnikov Variation
from Carlsen's Sveshnikov with black by Vicentin

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2021, Chessgames Services LLC