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Alireza Firouzja vs Vladislav Artemiev
Tata Steel Masters (2020), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 3, Jan-13
Caro-Kann Defense: Advance. Tal Variation (B12)  ·  1-0

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Jan-13-20  Rat1960: Why not 36. Qe6+ Kh8 37. Bf5

Rather well played game, great for learning from.

Jan-13-20
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Unless the silicon monsters find improvements for Black, the entire sequence from 21.e6 through 38.Qxf8 belongs in a textbook on how to use the initiative. It's the little moves such as 28.Qa3+ that forced the biggest concessions.
Jan-13-20  Rat1960: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Um...
This is a good review of the game.
Jan-13-20  wtpy: 29 Qe3 might have let a little advantage slip because after 29 ..Qd8 30 Qe4 black missed the chance of Nd5 where the knight can help out with the defense of the king. 29 Qf3 Qf6 30 Qe4 Qd8 31 Bg6 saves a tempo, and black has to give up the exchange.
Jan-13-20  SChesshevsky: Artemiev might have to rely less on the Caro to 1.e4 if he wants to move ahead. Could be a major liability against dynamic players who will now always prep against it.

Seems, for whatever reasons, Artemiev doesn't seem keen on 1.e4 e5 but may now need to accept it and add to rep.

Jan-13-20  ndg2: The advance variation is so much stronger against CK than against the French defense. Seriously, if I know for sure someone plays CK or French i open with 1.e4 (I normally almost always open with 1.d4) and then proceed to the advance variation, but only in CK while in the French I will play 3.Nc3. The delay of c5 makes this almost unplayable for black even if the bishop is out in CK while in the French it is not. Somehow black must undermine the white pawn center _fast_ or black will get busted on the black squares.
Jan-13-20  fisayo123: <SChesskevsky> What's this myth Artemiev over relies on the Caro-kann and its a major liability for him? He only just started playing it recently (with good results I might add) and he is more than capable of playing other stuff as well, including a host of Sicilians and whatnot.
Jan-13-20  SChesshevsky: <fisayo123> From cg database Artemiev played about 17 Caro's, 9 Najdorf/Canal's, 3 O'kelley's, and 3 Kan's. Compared to one 1...e5, since beginning of 2019. So it seems clear CK's a favorite.

It's OK to play and he can probably score decently against most of the field. But I think if he, or anybody else, believes he's going to score well with it against prepared top players. They are going to be disappointed.

Jan-13-20  fisayo123: <SChesshevsky> The chessgames database is laughably incomplete. You can't seriously rely on that as a database, especially not for the modern chess era.

https://www.365chess.com/players/Vl...

I don't use this database, I use an actual professional database, but you can see from the link there are way more Sicilians there. Artemiev has been playing the Sicilian all his life. And as for not scoring well with it, Dreev scored well with it for decades. The reason why 1...e5 is more popular these days is because of the Berlin not because the Caro-kann is faulty.

Jan-13-20  ajile: The move I thought was interesting is 4.h4. Never seen this idea before.
Jan-13-20  Jambow: Seems like Firouzja gained the advantage at 17Ne3 when Artemiev kept his light squared bishop on f5... I think simply retreating g6 or h7 keeps things pretty much on par. Of course all that was calculated with my shallow patzer engine in blitz mode...
Jan-13-20  SChesshevsky: <fisayo123> It would be interesting to see Artemiev's 1.e4 defense stats from 2019 on from a more comprehensive DB. If you get a chance.

While not definitive, I think So's 2-0 result against Artemiev's CK in a recent Speed Chess match 5 minute play is indicative of the problems he might face at the top level without expanding his opening rep a bit.

I'm pulling for Artemiev to make it to the top tier so as to be commonly invited to premier events. But it might be a critical time where he doesn't want to fall behind Firouzja or Duda or other young guys.

Jan-13-20  SChesshevsky: <ajile: The move I thought was interesting is 4.h4...> I'm not sure if he invented it but I first saw it by Tal in the World Championship rematch with Botvinnik. Other games I noticed was Spassky blowing out Yassar Seirawan sometime in the early 1980s and Kramnik beating Leko in a critical game of their WC match.
Jan-14-20  Ulhumbrus: One alternative to 4...h5 is 4...c5 answering the flank attack with an attack on the centre eg 5 g4 Bd7
Jan-14-20
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  WorstPlayerEver: Debut:

Keres vs R Pruun, 1931

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