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Magnus Carlsen vs Ian Nepomniachtchi
Carlsen - Nepomniachtchi World Championship Match (2021), Dubai UAE, rd 2, Nov-27
Catalan Opening: Closed Variation (E06)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Nov-27-21  cro777: <zb2cr: Why Carlsen played 51. g4, instead of 51. hxg5?>

The position after 51.hxg5 hxg5 is a theoretical draw. White would probably continue with 52.Re7


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Here, for example, Black can immediately simplify the position with 52...g5+ 53.fxg5 Kg6


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Nov-27-21
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  Sally Simpson: HI saffuna,

"Nepo said he played 24...c3 to stop white attacking via Rd4-h4, as the pawn would queen before the attack could break through. Still an odd choice."


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Which indeed it does but I also had it pegged as creating a passed a-pawn.

I've done Game 2. (with the result of the best anagram from 'Carlsen Nepomniachtchi' competition.)

https://www.redhotpawn.com/chess-bl...

I expect (though I hope not) an unofficial rest day for game 3.

Nov-27-21
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  hessonchess: 24. Nxb5! looks promising.
Nov-27-21  savagerules: Carlsen has sacked a pawn early in each of the two games. So far it's an interesting and entertaining match and looks like Carlsen wants to win decisively unlike his previous two World Championship matches where they went to tiebreaks and were rather dull overall.
Nov-28-21  fisayo123: Nepo has to take his chances.

Ding Liren or Firouzja would have made Carlsen suffer a lot more and probably win in the resulting early middlegame.

Nov-28-21
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  HeMateMe: have you seen a lot of players making MC 'suffer' in the middlegame? A lot of such games around?
Nov-28-21  Albertan: Chaos on thĂ© board, Carlsen-Nepomniachtchi Game 2 video analysis by GM Alejandro Ramierz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhA...

FIDE World Championship Dubai:The Champion’s turn:

https://www.fide.com/news/1452

Nov-28-21  optimal play: So Nepo missed an opportunity by erring with 24...c3?

Better options were g6 or Qe7 or perhaps bxa4

He can't afford to let Magnus off the hook too often.

Anyway, a good hard-fought game again.

Nov-28-21  SChesshevsky: Feels like one of those games where both players leave the board feeling crummy.

Nepo, being the exchange and a pawn up, probably rightfully felt there should've been real winning chances or at least making Carlsen uncomfortable. Certainly not expecting to be a pawn down in the endgame.

And Carlsen can't be happy about missing the 18...Nac5 idea. Pretty much making it a two result game with white at an early stage.

Guessing neither player feeling this was a "good" game.

Nov-28-21  The Kings Domain: Judging from this game things are beginning to cook up. Can't wait for the fireworks to begin.
Nov-28-21
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  HeMateMe: Do the chess programs demonstrate a win for Nepo at some point in the game?
Nov-28-21  ajile: After ..Qd7 it appears that both players wanted to play less obvious moves to throw off their opponent's analysis.

It was very interesting that Carlsen's Knight on d6 was such a monster Ian gave back the exchange to get rid of it.

I like the fact that these guys are so friendly they can banter about the game at the end.

Nov-28-21  Brenin: Why does CG give only moves 1-15?
Nov-28-21
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  HeMateMe: part of your screen might be blocked if you don't have a premium account. Just go premium and all of the ads disappear.
Nov-28-21
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  Chessical: It's nothing to do with Premium membership, as a Premium member I can only see the computer annotated score to move 15.
Nov-28-21  Messiah: <Brenin: Why does CG give only moves 1-15?>

Some idiot requested the analysis when the game was just by the 15th move (more precisely, when Stonehenge entered the first 15 moves). I laughed a LOT on it when I saw, I admit.

Nov-28-21  diceman: <Messiah: <Brenin: Why does CG give only moves 1-15?>

Some idiot requested the analysis when the game was just by the 15th move >

If engines knew what they were doing, they'd analyze what hasn't happened yet.

Nov-28-21
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  moronovich: Let me recommend the site that broadcasts with Anna and Anand as commentators.They are a wonderful couple.
Nov-29-21
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  saffuna: Agree. Anand explains things well, often using examples from his career, tries to keep it light. Muzychuk is left laughing much of the time.
Nov-29-21
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  0ZeR0: <moronovich>

I'll gladly second (or rather third) that recommendation. It's been a joy experiencing their commentary. Anand's analysis in particular is especially invaluable, and he seems genuinely interested in hearing Anna's thoughts which makes their conversation feel natural and fun as they bounce ideas off one another.

Nov-29-21  cormier: 1

(-0.96) 24...g6 25.a5 Qe7 26.Qg4 Kh8 27.a6 Rb6 28.Ra1 c5 29.Bb7 Rb8 30.Rd1 Kg7 31.f4 Kf8 32.Qf3 Bxb7 33.axb7 b4 34.Nxc4 R6xb7 35.Rd6 Qf7

2

(-0.70) 24...Qe7 25.Qh5 g5 26.Bg2 Rbd8 27.Ne4 Rxd1+ 28.Qxd1 Kh8 29.Nf6 c3 30.bxc3 bxa4 31.Qxa4 c5 32.Qa6 h6 33.Bxa8 Rxa8 34.Kg2 Rb8 35.Kh3 Rd8 36.Kg2 Kg7

3

(-0.57) 24...bxa4 25.Bxh7+ Kxh7 26.Qh5+ Kg8 27.Rd4 Qe7 28.Rh4 Qxh4 29.Qxh4 Rxb2 30.Qxc4 Rb1+ 31.Kg2 c5+ 32.Kh3 Bd5 33.Qxc5 a3 34.Qxa3 Rxf2 35.Qxa7 Rxh2+ 36.Kg4 Rf1 37.Kg5 Kh7 38.g4 Rh6 39.Qd4 Rg6+ 40.Kh4 Rh1+ 41.Kg3 Rh5 42.Nc8 Rhg5 43.Ne7

4

(-0.42) 24...c3 25.bxc3 bxa4 26.Qc2 g6 27.Qxa4 Qe7 28.h4 Rb2 29.f4 c5 30.Nc4 Rb7 31.Nd6 Rbb8 32.Bxa8 Rxa8 33.Qa6 Rab8 34.Qc6 Qd8 35.Qxc5 Rf7 36.Ra1 Rc7

5 = (-0.19) 24...a6 25.Nxb5 Qb7 26.Nd6 Qxb2 27.Rd2 Qc1+ 28.Rd1 Qg5 29.h4 Qe7 30.Qxc4 c5 31.Bxa8 Rxa8 32.Rb1 Rfb8 33.Rxb8+ Rxb8 34.a5 Qd7 35.Kh2 h5 36.f3

6 = (-0.14) 24...g5 25.Nxc4 Qf7 26.Nd6 Qg7 27.a5 c5 28.Bxa8 Rxa8 29.b3 Rab8 30.Rc1 c4 31.bxc4 b4 32.c5 b3 33.c6 Kh8 34.Rf1 g4 35.Rb1 a6 36.Qd2

7 = (0.00) 24...Qc7 25.Rd4 c5 26.Bxh7+ Kxh7 27.Rh4+ Kg8 28.Qc2 Rf5 29.Nxf5 Qxe5 30.Ne3 bxa4 31.Qh7+ Kf7 32.Rf4+ Ke7 33.Rg4 Kf7 34.Rf4+

https://fritz.chessbase.com/en/Frit... Depth 33/72, Speed = 614kPos/s, Time = 135483s Black is slightly better.

Nov-30-21  Albertan: FIDE World Championship Match NBC Recap Game 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSd...

Dec-02-21  Ulhumbrus: According to the computer 17 Ne5? passes the advantage to Black while 17 Nxf6+! keeps it for White.

A very small part of the computer's analysis suggests ( amongst other things) that 17 Ne5 causes the d4 pawn to be displaced so that Black's N on a6 can go to c5.

If White keeps this pawn on d4 and Black's N on a6 has to go to b4 instead White can put his queen's bishop to work by Bd2 and Bxb4.

All this suggests that the move 17 Ne5? foregoes a chance to make White's queen's bishop more useful for the purpose of attacking Black's N on a6 compelled to go to b4 instead of to c5.

Dec-10-21  Messiah: A draw, but not a safety draw.
Oct-29-22  DemonKing: This draw was probably a fighting one.
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