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Dec-11-21
 | | keypusher: <albertan> 2708? Pah. I don't get out of bed for anyone's analysis who isn't at least 2750. Actually, Shankland makes an interesting (though I guess not original) observation about 23.g3. <Now, the only explanation I have for the next move is that there are 2 versions of Nepo. He did not just blitz out g2-g3 without thinking and miss something obvious because he was not paying attention. He spent 9 minutes, and still came up with a move that is very hard to explain from a player of his caliber. Sometimes he just seems to tilt really hard. I know from my own experience -- I've played him twice. The first game I was on the black side of a Caro-Kann, and he played a fantastically energetic game. It was a wild fight with plenty of chances for both sides. He did not play perfectly, as nobody ever does in super-complicated positions, but after a somewhat back and forth affair, he found a lot of best moves plenty of times, and eventually ground out a well-deserved win. The other time I played him, it was toward the end of a tournament, I guess he may have been struggling with stamina, and he played some d6/g6/a6/e6 setup, moving pawns around without developing his pieces, and I absolutely demolished him with almost no effort. It was a weird feeling afterward, that I had crushed a near-2800 so easily, and I can imagine this is probably what Magnus is feeling now. Every now and then, this sub-optimal version of Nepo shows up, and unfortunately for him, it came at the worst possible time.> 23.g3??
<Not only does this move lose violently, it absolutely forces Black to play the winning combination because everything else is tantamount to resigning.> Here are the Nepo-Shankland games.
Nepomniachtchi vs Shankland, 2017 Shankland vs Nepomniachtchi, 2019 |
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| Dec-11-21 | | Albertan: GM Nakamura has analyzed this game at the following link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tn... |
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Dec-11-21
| | keypusher: <Cheapo by the Dozen: My thought was more Evans Gambit. > Hard to do against 3....Nf6.
<louispaulsen88888888: What have you got to lose? Play the Kings Gambit.> You could lose any chance for an interesting/favorable game, for one thing. The modern defenses with ...d5 and ...Nf6 just don't seem to offer much for White. |
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| Dec-11-21 | | RadioBoy: I truly wonder why there were no Sicilians played, especially by Carlsen. Was he scared of some nefarious Nepo opening prep?? |
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| Dec-12-21 | | optimal play: <SChesshevsky: 23. g3 is a continuation of the rook hunt> Yes, that probably reflects Nepo's thinking, but it would look a lot worse if Magnus had played 26...exf2+ followed by Rd6 Nepo was able to prevent the rook lift since Magnus played the lesser Nf5 and so the game continued much longer than it should have. 27.c5 looks worse because immediately after c6 the bishop is trapped. Nepo battled on but it was a lost cause. |
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| Dec-12-21 | | hoodrobin: Nepo has been no real challenge for Carlsen. |
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| Dec-12-21 | | AngeLa: wow, surgical endgame, gg nepo 🎉🇧🇻💯💪💯 |
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Dec-12-21
 | | Sally Simpson: Hi K.P.
Nepo says he got Carlsen's reply move order mix up, he overlooked Qxg4+ he thought exf2+ and then Qxg4. Giri was very disappointed in 23.g3 basically saying Nepo was fed up and just wanted the match to end and go home. (between you and me, Giri was probably disappointed because he wanted a draw and was looking forward to picking up the fee for commentating on Saturdays game.) |
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Dec-12-21
 | | chancho: Closing ceremony:
https://youtu.be/ubPWEjAZ0pk?t=691 |
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| Dec-13-21 | | Vladimir Zukhar: Mangus 2nd's, 3rd's, 4ths, 5ths, etc....
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VEjEZuW... |
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| Dec-16-21 | | Albion 1959: This win helped Carlsen to retain his title. After a slow start to this match (5 draws) he powered his way to victory with four wins and two draws in the next six games.
Okay, he is without doubt, the world's current best chess player and is deservedly World Champion, but his style of play will never capture the imagination of the chess playing public. Certainly not in the way that Fischer and Kasparov did. Carlsen is a very different type of player, damned hard to beat ! Very much in style of Petrosian and Karpov circa 1972 to 1974 on his way to the title and beyond into the early 1980's. Carlsen's stats speak for themselves and right now there is no one who is capable of defeating him in match play. With this victory he will be champion until 2024 at least. A tenure longer than Karpov, but Karpov played four hard matches against Korchnoi and four more gruelling matches against Kasparov ! Carlsen has only played five matches that with exception of the recent match had a 12 game limit - something that Karpov and Kasparov never had the luxury of. Will he be judged to better than Fischer ? Only time will tell. For now Magnus Carlsen enjoys the respect that a world champion deserves from the chess public around the world: |
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Dec-16-21
 | | harrylime: <<Vladimir Zukhar: Kasparov>> You had me at therapy.
You need therapy. |
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Dec-16-21
| | harrylime: We need a roll call for all the Gazza FANBOYS on these pages loike lol lol <<Vladimir Zukhar>> is Number One Gazza FANBOY But I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeed to make the list loike ... |
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Dec-16-21
| | keypusher: < harrylime:
We need a roll call for all the Gazza FANBOYS on these pages loike lol lol<<Vladimir Zukhar>> is Number One Gazza FANBOY But I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeed to make the list loike ...> Well, I thought I was a Kasparov FANBOY. But compared to V.Z. I see that I am really a HATER. |
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Dec-17-21
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
<Hozza> roll call for Gazza? I'm in! Just look at his highlight reel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flV... It starts right off the bat with Gazza's KING BELTER |
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Dec-17-21
| | jessicafischerqueen:
<Hozza> more on Garry Kasparov's reel- Notice how many of the Tottenham highlights are GAZZA putting a long ball right on OZZY ARDILES' plate! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flV... Up, Tottenham! Up, England! |
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| Dec-17-21 | | Vladimir Zukhar: WHERE'S the ARBITER?? 🤔
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5M5RE1M... |
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| Dec-17-21 | | Vladimir Zukhar: WHERE'S the ARBITER?? 🤔
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5M5RE1M... |
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| Dec-17-21 | | whiteshark: <keypusher> Thanks for the Shankland quote on <23.g3??>! Maybe Nepo became a victim of the so-called "Shankland Method"â„¢ by asking the question asked there again and again: <what happens if I do it anyway?> https://store.chessclub.com/icnet-s...
or for thrifty people https://thechessworld.com/superchar... :D |
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| Dec-17-21 | | cormier: komodo 13 depth=37
-4.84 23... dxe3 24. Rxe3 Rxg4 25. Qe2 Ng6 26. c4 Nf4 27. Qc2 Re8 28. Rxe8+ Qxe8 29. Kf1 Ng6 30. Re1 Qd7 31. b3 Rg5 32. Re3 Ne5 33. Qe2 Qh3+ 34. Ke1 Ng4 35. Re8+ Kh7 36. Qf3 Qh5 37. Re2 Rf5 38. Qe4 Nf6 39. Qd3 Nd7 40. Re3 Nc5 41. Qe2 Qh1+ 42. Qf1 Qh2 43. Qe2 h5 44. Qf1 h4 45. gxh4 Qf4 46. Qe2 Qxh4 |
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| Dec-17-21 | | cormier: komodo 13 depth=36
0.00 23. Rxd4 Rxd4 24. cxd4 Nxd5 25. Nxd5 Qxd5 26. Qxc7 Qxd4 27. b3 Qf6 28. Qe5 Qc6 29. Qe3 Qd6 30. g5 hxg5 31. Qxg5 g6 32. Re4 Qd1+ 33. Kh2 Rd5 34. Qf6 Qh5+ 35. Rh4 Qe5+ 36. Qxe5 Rxe5 37. Rd4 b5 38. g4 b4 39. Rd8+ Kg7 40. Ra8 Rc5 41. Ra6 g5 42. Kg2 f6 43. Ra7+ Kg6 44. Ra6 Kf7 45. f3 Rd5 46. Kg3 Kg6 47. Ra7 Rc5 48. Ra6 Rd5 0.00 23. Nc4 dxc3 24. Ne5 Qxa4 25. b3 Qb5 26. Nd3 Rxg4 27. f3 Rd4 28. Rxe7 R4xd5 29. Re3 Rd4 30. Qxc3 Qd7 31. Kf2 Qd6 32. Qc2 c5 33. Qe2 Kh7 34. Qc2 g6 35. Ke2 Qh2 36. Kf1 Qh1+ 37. Kf2 Qh4+ 38. Kf1 b5 39. Nf2 Rxd1+ 40. Nxd1 Qh1+ 41. Ke2 Qxg2+ 42. Nf2 Qg5 43. Ne4 Qg2+ 44. Nf2 -0.18 23. d6 Qxd6 24. g3 d3 25. Rxd3 Qxd3 26. Qxd3 Rxd3 27. gxf4 Ng6 28. Ng2 Kf8 29. Kf1 Rd2 30. Rb1 Ne7 31. Ne3 Nd5 32. Nxd5 Rxd5 33. Ke2 h5 34. gxh5 Rxh5 35. Rd1 Ke7 36. b4 g6 37. Rd3 Rh4 38. Re3+ Kd6 39. Rd3+ Ke6 40. Rd4 Rh3 41. Re4+ Kd5 42. Rd4+ Kc6 43. Rc4+ Kb7 44. b5 c5 45. bxc6+ Kc7 46. Rd4 Rxc3 47. Rd7+ |
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| Jan-14-22 | | dunkenchess: Good job GM M Carlsen |
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| May-11-23 | | troll007: Allmoust all analyst says, that black win fast after 26....exf2+ 27.Qxf2 Rd6, but how to win quick after 28.Qf1 ? Positions looks terrible, but how to win? |
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May-11-23
 | | beatgiant: <troll007> How terrible does the position need to look before you would agree Black is winning? 26...exf2+ 27. Qxf2 Rd6 28. Qf1 Rg6+ leads to a big king hunt, for example 29. Kf2 Qh2+ 30. Ke3 Rg3+ 31. Ke4 Qh5 etc. |
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May-12-23
 | | perfidious: The passage on Nepo, related by Shankland and reproduced by <keypusher>, offers corroborative insight into what at least one other top player has said of Nepo: all is well to a point, then he cracks. Difficult enough to face a 2700-level opponent when everything is sweetness and light, but giving that much rope spells ruination for the elite. |
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