May-13-22 | | Brenin: Each side has a vulnerable e-pawn, but Black also has a vulnerable K, and White has the move, so 18 Bxe5 Rxe5 (otherwise the Q is lost) 19 Nxe5 Bxe4 (19 ... Qxe5 20 Rd8+ Kc7 21 Rc8+ winkles the Black K out into a strong attack, and 19 ... Nxe4 fails to 20 Nxc6+) 20 Nd7+ Nxd7 (20 ... Ka8 21 Qe2, or 20 ... Qxd7 21 Qf4+, both with clear wins) 21 Qxe4 leaving White the exchange ahead with a strong attack on the exposed Black K. |
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May-13-22 | | Brenin: Black's 12th, 13th and 14th moves seem pointless, and inviting trouble, which arrived almost immediately. And surely 15 ... Bb7 was safer than 15 ... Kb8? |
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May-13-22 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: I saw the line: 8. ♘xe5 ♖xe5 19. ♗xe5 ♕xe5 20. ♖d8+ ♔c7 21. ♖c8+ ♔d7 22. ♖d1+ ♔e7 23. ♖xc6, because 19.♕xe5 is almost forced, since 19...♗xe4 now allows 20. ♗xc7+ ♔xc7 21. ♕c3+ and White wins. For the best answer:21...♗xe4, the King (who is he?, me, be sure!) considered the line 19. ♕e2 ♖xe5 20. ♗xe5 ♕xe5 21. ♖d8+ ♔c7 22. ♖c8+ ♔d7 23. ♕c4, I guess that White still has a winning attack. Nevertheless, must be recognized that 20.♘d7+ is the winning move. |
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May-13-22 | | mel gibson: I saw that move straight away but I wasn't sure how it would pan out. Stockfish 15 says:
18. Bxe5
(18. Bxe5 (♗b2xe5
♖e8xe5 ♘c4xe5 ♗c6xe4 ♘e5-d7+ ♔b8-a8 ♕f3-e2 ♗e4-c6 ♕e2-e5 ♕c7xe5 ♘d7xe5
♗c6-d5 ♘e5xf7 ♖h8-g8 ♖h1-f1 ♗f8-e7 ♖f1xf6 ♗e7xf6 ♖d1xd5 ♖g8-e8 ♖d5-d1
♔a8-b8 ♗a6-d3 ♖e8-e6 ♗d3-c4 ♖e6-e3 ♘f7-d6 g7-g5 ♗c4-d5 g5-g4 ♖d1-f1 ♗f6-h4
g2-g3 ♗h4-d8 ♘d6-b5 h5-h4 g3xh4 ♗d8-e7 h4-h5 a7-a6 ♘b5-d4 ♗e7-c5 ♘d4-c6+
♔b8-c7 b3-b4 ♖e3-h3 b4xc5 b6xc5 ♘c6-a5 ♖h3xh5 ♗d5-e6 ♖h5xh2 ♗e6xg4 ♖h2-h4
♗g4-f3) +8.06/44 383)
score for White +8.06 depth 44. |
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May-13-22
 | | al wazir: What's the finish after 22...Nf6 ? |
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May-13-22
 | | raymondhow: I found the first two moves, then got timid with 20.Qe2. White retains a small advantage but I'm not sure that's worth half credit. |
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May-13-22
 | | agb2002: Black threatens Bxe4.
The rook on e8 protects Black's back rank. This suggests 18.Bxe5 Rxe5 19.Nxe5: A) 19... Qxe5 20.Rd8+ Kc7 21.Rc8+ Kd7 22.Rd1+ wins decisive material (22... Ke7 23.Rxc6; 22... Bd6 23.Rxh8). B) 19... Bxe4 20.Nd7+
B.1) 20... Nxd7 21.Qxe4 wins an exchange.
B.2) 20... Qxd7 21.Rxd7 Bxf3 22.Rd8+ Kc7 23.Rc8+, followed by gxf3, wins an exchange. B.3) 20... Ka8 21.Qe2 wins an exchange at least (21... Nxd7 22.Qxe4+; 21... Bc6 22.Nxf6). |
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May-13-22
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Took a lot of work to determine which piece had to make the first capture, and then find answers to all of the subvariations. None of it seemed particularly difficult, however. |
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May-13-22 | | Brenin: <al wazir: What's the finish after 22...Nf6 ?> Nothing forcing, but 23 Qf3 leaves Black short of good moves, with the Q tied to defending b7, e.g. 23 ... Nd7 24 Qxh5, or 23 ... Ng4 24 h3. |
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May-13-22
 | | parch: Went for
18.B:e5 R:e5 19.N:e5 B:e4 20.Nd7+ Ka8
(20...Q:d7 21.Qf4+ Bd6 22.R:d6 Qc7 23.R:f6 B:c2+ 24.Kb2 gf6 25.Q:f6 Rd8 26.Rc1 Looks good for White ) 21 Qe2 Bc6 22.N:f6 the exchange ahead. |
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May-13-22 | | saturn2: At first I was not convinced by the game line and thought after 19...Bxe4 20.Qe2 black can play on whith slight disadvantage. Then I saw 20.Nd7 is a check. |
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May-13-22
 | | chrisowen: Latch by jove i Bxe5 ace it cuff bone brag clock give axiom jabs around e5 joys exchange up winning no :) |
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May-13-22 | | TheaN: Ah crap I ended up 'missing' 20.Nd7+. Parenthesis, as I <did> see it, but dismissed it because I couldn't solve 20....Ka8. After that I started pondering other moves and played 20.Qe2 (Be7 ⩲) directly which gives the initiative to Black (hence the low advantage). Of course, if that move has merit, then the game line with 20....Ka8 21.Qe2 +- is significantly better, as White will forcefully trade pieces and keeps initiative. |
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