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| Jul-30-09 | | blacksburg: <ruthless counter attacking chess is more to my style, so the sicilian najdorf scheveningen move orders are more to my taste> <I'll just have to play my ultra deep technical Karpov style chess, 1.nf3!!!> perhaps you should seek counseling. you seem to have multiple personalities. :) |
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| Jul-30-09 | | HAPERSAUD: lol let me expalin, as white i dont take riskd, as blakc i go for the attack, it works wonders for me, and since i excel in endgames and positional trechnique its my way taht works, but thnak you fo r the concern lol. i do possibley have adult adhd which is a pain when palying a 2 hour grandmaster time control game. but so did bobby fischer and look what happened to him before he went nuts :) |
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| Jul-30-09 | | HAPERSAUD: i also apologize for my typing, i may having computer dsylexia :) |
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| Jul-31-09 | | MaxxLange: <blacksburg> no doubt, serious players will be well-prepared for the 1. Nc3 transposition. I was thinking of the B and C class players. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | MaxxLange: <HAPERSAUD> good luck in your debut you probably have more than enough openings right now to go play as an unrated. other people's openings aren't really that strong in the amateur sections, unless you stumble into their quick trick stuff |
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| Jul-31-09 | | parisattack: < HAPERSAUD: ... with the 1.e4 d5 2.nc3. Dxe4 3.nxe4 Bf5 lines or something else. You just to strike more fear by making my repertoire unpredictable! Can anyone point me to an research in these lines? The chessgames database isn't reliable as the games usually aren't of a high quality in these obscure sidelines. > The chesslabs database online is more useful for exploring these kinds of lines. When I played 1. e4 I always played 2. Nc3 against the Scan, although 2. ed: is of course fine. I liked the closed Dunst transpositions. The line you mentioned is a sort of Caro-Kann with some twists for both sides. Black can sometimes play ...c5 in a single move but also is unable to get the Q to c7 or a5 early. And White can develop very quickly. It's a fun line for both sides; Chesslabs has quite a few games with it. I have long felt that below 2400 or so anything is as good as anything else - play what appeals to you and what you at least think you understand well. The fact that an opening such as the Scan is very rarely seen at the top levels really doesn't mean much, IMHO. I play the Hippo-Robatsch and love it although it is probably unsound and that's why you do not see it at 2700+. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | MaxxLange: My complaint is that it is bad for their game for beginners or say under 1800 players to just try to totally avoid playing a more classical defense to 1 e4. Which some chess teachers do promote - learn the Scandanavian, the busy man's bust to 1 e4 and go on with it. I think that taking your lumps with 1...e5 or the French or Sicilian or Pirc or whatever is essential for your chess development and general playing level. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | parisattack: <MaxxLange: > I think you have a very valid point here. In a similar light, I've never thought much of the so-called Repertoire books, for example - "Learn these few moves and you don't have to think again." Then what's the point of playing at all? There's nothing wrong with a Colle, London System or Polar Bear - but I think the impression that you can/should make near mechanical moves at any stage of the game sets off a wrong course for many players. As you say, take your lumps - its the only real way to improve. There are no shortcuts. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | MaxxLange: That's how I stopped playing the KIA against the French. I felt like I should play 2. d4 and try to take my White instead of playing a reversed Black system. Even if I had no idea what to do in the main line French. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | MaxxLange: But, you know, if someone is scoring well with 1 e4 d5, or with the London or Torre or Colle, rock on. Change your openings when they quit working against better players. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | MaxxLange: Back on topic, I still want to know the big idea for Black behind this new 1 e4 d5 2 exd5 Qxd5 3 Nc3 Qd6!? line. People have tried to explain it before, but I still don't get it. Is it just that the Queen turns out to be safe from harassment on d6, and well-placed centrally? How does Black continue against White's best answer? Which is what, anyway? I don't even know what to do on move 4, I would have to think for five or ten minutes in a real game. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | ToTheDeath: I think it's just a way to avoid more well-analyzed lines after 3...Qa5. It certainly is nothing to fear- sooner or later the queen will have to move or be vulnerable to attacks like Bf4 or Nb5- stopping these with moves like ...a6 costs more time. |
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| Jul-31-09 | | MaxxLange: Black maybe plays ...g6 and ...Bg7? What about the Black e-pawn, do they just keep it back like in a Dragon? Or after they inevitably move their Queen, can they like get ...e5 in or something like that? |
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| Aug-01-09 | | blacksburg: <I think that taking your lumps with 1...e5 or the French or Sicilian or Pirc or whatever is essential for your chess development and general playing level.> i wish i had realized this years ago. i've learned more in the past few months playing 1...e5 than all my time playing the scandinavian. of course, it is nice to have the scandinavian as a surprise in the back pocket. but you'll find yourself just going through the motions if you play it exclusively. whereas with 1...e5, there is a huge variety of possible positions to learn, and i never seem to get bored playing it. but when you switch from something like the scandinavian to a more mainstream opening, you have to be willing to lose a LOT of games before you figure out what you're doing. the best way to learn an opening is to lose a few hundred games in it, and then analyze to see where you went wrong. you just have to be willing to risk losing those games. |
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| Aug-01-09 | | MaxxLange: <blacksburg> yeah, to play 1 e4 e5, you have to learn how to defend and get play against all kinds of White ideas. 2. Nf3, 2. f4, 2. d4, 2. Bc4, 2. Nc3, and even others, are all strong lines that White can go into. The King's Gambit and all that stuff should not be feared, but you do have to learn a real defense to it. Declining with 2...Bc5 is solid, and you can swot up the basic main lines in an afternoon. |
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| Aug-01-09 | | SirChrislov: W: NM Robert J. Schloss, 2199
B: Christian J. Garcia, 1877
Sta. Monica Bay CC Simul, Feb. 2009
B01-Jadoul Gambit, Main Line.
1.e4 d5
2.exd5 Nf6
3.d4 Bg4
4.Bb5+ Nbd7
5.f3 Bf5
6.c4 a6
7.Bxd7+ Qxd7
8.Nc3 0-0-0
9.Be3 e6
10.dxe6 Qxe6
11.Qe2 Bb4
12.0-0-0 Rhe8
<Chessmaster: After 12 moves, black stands better.> Apologies for not including a diagram, I don't know how to do that [yet]. 13.Bf2 Qd7 <CM: 13...Qc6 was slightly better.>
14.Qd2 Qc6
15.g4
<at this point, he played 15.b3??, to protect the c4 unit, but then retracted the move(so he violated touch-move) and said, "well, that can't be good."> <as you can see if 15.b3?? Ba3+, and it's curtains.> 15... Bg6
16.h4(attempting to trap the bishop, but...)
16... Nxg4!
17.fxg4 Qxh1
18.h5 Be4(and the Bishop is saved.)
19.Nge2 Qf3
20.Bh4 f6
21.Qf4? Qxf4+?
<CM: here, I could have won another piece with 21...Bxc3!> 22.Nxf4 Bxc3
23.bxc3 Bf3
24.Rg1 c5?!
25.d5 Re4
26.Ne6 Rd6
27.Nxg7 Rxg4
28.Rxg4 Bxg4
29.Ne8 Rb6
30.Nxf6 Bxh5
31.Nxh7 Be2
32.Be7 Bxc4
33.d6 Bxh2?? <33... Be6!> 34.Nf8 Rxd6
35.Bxd6 1/2 - 1/2
<parisattack: I have long felt that below 2400 or so anything is as good as anyhing else - play what appeals to you and what you at least think you understand well.> I couldn't agree more. |
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| Aug-01-09 | | SirChrislov: <MaxxLange: Change your openings when they quit working against better players.> Or, you can stick to your guns and instead try to find improvements. that's the Bobby Fischer way. G. Kasparov said in 'Game Over: Man vs. Machine': "when you lose a game and go over it, it's pretty easy to see where you went wrong" now I say, that from there, after detecting the faulty move you played, you search for the correct line that you should have played but did not see in the game and, if you don't find an improvement over what your opponent did to outplay you, then stop playing that line alltogether, but you don't have to change openings, unless you play the Damiano Defence. About the game below, after the game he said I was winning the whole time up until that 33... Bxh2?? blunder; and I already had the better position as soon as move 12. It reminds me of that Kasparov-Anand WCC Scandinavian game, Kasparov won but Anand got a better game out of the opening. Viva La Skandinovich Defence!! |
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| Aug-01-09 | | parisattack: <SirChrislov:> Very decent game/play. 16. ...Ng4 should have won for you. I am sorry you did not get the win you deserved. But as all of us in the trenches know - it happens. I had a forced mate in five against a senior master once, missed it and had to take a draw. |
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| Aug-01-09 | | SirChrislov: Why thank you, Sir.
It's an honor for me(a humble class A) that a player of your Master strengh and knowledge ranks my play in this game 'very decent'.
It's true that I played better than white the entire game but I don't feel I deserved to win after that endgame blunder. but like you say, It happens. Thank you for reviewing my game.Those 'chess philosopy' questions in your profile are very interesting. I'm still trying to figure out the computer moves from that mind boggling #2 Game in 1997 vs. Kasparov. A Bobby Fischer intervention perhaps?
How could it make some of those wonderful moves that it made and miss a perpetual check at the end? |
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Aug-01-09
 | | Phony Benoni: <SirChrislov> Here's a short tutorial on inserting diagrams using FEN notation: FEN Help Page
It's easy enough to do, though kind of cumbersome if you don't have software to help |
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| Aug-02-09 | | AnalyzeThis: The Scandanavian needs to be a surpise weapon. When it isn't, black tends to get slapped around. |
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| Aug-02-09 | | SirChrislov: Thanks for the help <Phony Benoni>. "But that's not mate! I can take the queen!" thats's real funny. |
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| Aug-02-09 | | WhiteRook48: so play 2...Nf6!! |
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| Aug-02-09 | | blacksburg: <The Scandanavian needs to be a surpise weapon. When it isn't, black tends to get slapped around.> i'm sure this is true for the 2600+ club, but for us sub-2200 players, any opening is playable. |
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| Aug-04-09 | | SirChrislov: True, but it is quite exciting when one's pet line pops up once in a blue moon in an elite event or World Championship; but as far as 2400 and under events, I believe there is no "inferior" defence. even the Philidor and other so called "inferior" defences can be played at these levels and black needs not fear a thing. though it is true that white wins most often. but... The sword is only as powerful as its master. |
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