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Aug-11-02
 | | Sneaky: Is this what's known as the "Gran Prix Attack?" I don't know much about this, but I've always enjoyed this line as Black: 1. e4 c5 2. f4 d5 3. exd5 (3. e5 Bf5 is fine by me) Nf6 and now if White gets greedy with 4. c4, ...e6 is a perfectly sound gambit. White's backward d-pawn and lack of development are worth the pawn. So instead White should play 4. Bb5+! but after ...Nbd7 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bxd7+ Qxd7 Black will have no difficulties capturing the d-pawn, and White must worry about Black playing ...b5 and ...Bb7. In short, I don't fear the Gran Prix Attack! |
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| Aug-12-02 | | refutor: if yer gonna play the grand prix attack, the best way is to play 2.Nc3 first avoiding the annoying 2. ...d5 and then 3.f4 |
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| Jan-12-03 | | pawntificator: There are a lot of games in here that are 2. d4 and not 2. f4. Oh well, what can ya do? |
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Jan-12-03
 | | chessgames.com: We are working on a software system that will be able to 100% correctly identify the ECO of a PGN game based on its moves (positions). Once that is ready, we will run this software through every game in the database and fix every miscategorized ECO code. That same software will be able to perform other interesting analytics of the game as well. More on that later. |
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| Jan-12-03 | | pawntificator: Cool! Yoos guys are swell! |
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| Mar-08-03 | | ksadler: This is also the 2. d4 line as well...I have recently taken up the Sicilian on a part-time basis on ICC. After 1. e4 c5 2. d4 I play 2. .. e6 hoping for 3. Nf3. Any thought on this position (before the Nf3 and what I should look for or the obvious problems). |
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| Mar-09-03 | | Spitecheck: Who is playing 2. d4 in the Sicilian these days? That smacks of a Centre Game clone :). |
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| Mar-09-03 | | ksadler: No GMs but on the less than GM level 2. d4 (the Smith Morra) is played for sure. |
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| Mar-09-03 | | Spitecheck: The Smith Morra should be more dangerous than it appears to be, I certainly had no problems with it as black in my time in tournies/club scene. I don't imagine you see the Sicilian Centre Game to often though. Although with prior preparation almost any opening can be played with reasonable merit. |
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| Apr-07-03 | | Flight: I've tried this a few times hoping for something that can rip a sicilian (and especially a dragon) apart. Generally it has been me that requires surgery afterwards, for an attack it seems to require very careful play for little reward. Anyone have any better ideas for a sicilian beater? I play the sicilian myself but always seem to get slaughtered trying to attack. |
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| Apr-07-03 | | ksadler: 2. c3! It works for me. |
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| Oct-17-03 | | Sylvester: If someone plays the dreaded Smith-Morra gambit against you, take the pawn! And don't fool around as black. Learn the book moves and play them. |
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| Jan-16-04 | | MoonlitKnight: I'm looking a bit more into the 2.f4 lines for the simple reason that I hate to face it. That f-pawn can be a real bastard. |
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| Jan-16-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: there is something to say for c3, but try 3. g3 instead of opening the center, fianchetto your bishop and castle ( similar to kings indian but for white ). I could be wrong but I think its called the Reti system. |
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| Jan-16-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: The Smith-Morra gambit is unfortunately
not "dreaded" enough. White gets great development and an open file, but no different attack than if the gambit hadent been played. If someone here plays the Smith-Morra, give an attacking variation for White into the middlegame. I really wish the gambit worked as I do love gambits...the secret gambit against the sicilian?....2.b4! The wing gambit. Played correctly, it can be a gambit to dread. |
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| Jan-16-04 | | Dick Brain: <MoonlitKnight>some commenters have mentioned elsewhere that the fun has been taken out of the immediate 2. f4 lately by the counter-gambit 2...d5 3 exd5 Nf6 |
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| Jan-16-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: Its true Dick Brain! If your going to play 2.f4 d5 play 3. e5 It does require careful play, usually for little reward, but it is fun to play. The pawn chain that forms with white becomes a big responsibility to take care of, and black will strike at the vulnerable center pawns. Unfortunately, for white to play this opening safely, he/she must play Kh1 immediately after castling. |
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| Jan-16-04 | | refutor: after 1.e4 c5 2.f4 d5 3.e5 you are in a (much improved) caro-kann advance after 3. ... Bf5, where you've already got ...c5 in succesfully |
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| Jan-16-04 | | refutor: an example (by transposition) is Blatny vs Stangl, 1991 |
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| Jan-17-04 | | MoonlitKnight: <Dick Brain> Yes, that's one of the line I've been looking into! But I currently prefer to play e6 first, as done for instance by Kramnik lately. |
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| Jan-29-04 | | Aliasad: Hey guys, why not transpose to the Smith-Morra after giving making black think that he'll get to play his favorite sicillian?
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.c3!? |
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| Jan-29-04 | | Catfriend: Because you risk getting into 2..♘c6, ♘f6, e6 or many others, and then you can't play the Smith-Morra effectively! But if you feel confident also in many other variations of the sicilian, your idea surely may work! |
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| Jan-29-04 | | Catfriend: BTW, what if I, as black, play 1.e4 c5 2.♘f3 d6 3.d4 c:d4 4.c3!? d3!? ? |
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| Jan-29-04 | | BiLL RobeRTiE: As gimmicky and theoretically suspect as it is, I find the smith-morra gambit extremely annoying to face. Thus, I have taken to playing as black: 1. e4 c5 2. d4?! cxd4 3. c3 Nf6, transposing into the c3 sicilian! Perhaps 3. c3 d5 4. exd5 Qxd5 would also be possible, but then you would have a 2...d5 c3 sicilian where Black has exchanged on d4 rather early. |
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| Jan-30-04 | | Aliasad: Hey there Catfriend. The problem with 4... d3 is that although it is a spoiling attempt by black, white can easily reach a comfortable position. 5.Bxd3 Nc6 6.c4 g6 7.Nc3 Bg7 and white has a set up in the line of the Maroczy Bind. I don't see how back can prevent c4. A technical paper for further reading: http://www.insight.demon.co.uk/Tech... |
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