| Jan-28-04 | | WhoKeres: You have to wonder if the position after black's eleventh move is perhaps the most common opening position in chess history. Its amazing how resilient and popular the variation is. I always enjoyed studying the black side of this position in particular. What's also amazing is the different number of great players who have used this defense in important games. It suits players of all different styles. |
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| Mar-02-04 | | Cerebrate2006: in the game from Linares '04 of topalov-Shirov, after 12. d5, black played Nc4, i believe that is a mistake. I posted that in the game, but this would be a better place to see what people who might know this opening better say. |
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| Mar-02-04 | | PinkPanther: <WhoKeres>
I'd probably say the position after 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 (the Najdorf Sicilian) has been reached far more times than this one. |
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| Mar-12-04 | | ruylopez900: The Closed is one of the best Defences to the Ruy Lopez today! It is only equalled or surpassed by the Marshall Attack and the Flohr-Zaitzev Var. of the Closed. The Berlin is to drawish and not quite in the spirit of the Ruy. Thoughts? |
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| Mar-12-04 | | ughaibu: How about Bird's or the open defenses? |
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| Mar-12-04 | | ruylopez900: <ughaibu> I don't think I've ever played against the Bird so I can't offer a true opinion. As for the Open it is sound, yes...but it seems to hand White the initiative too easily. Or maybe I haven't really played against someone who knows it... |
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| Mar-12-04 | | BiLL RobeRTiE: Raar. I think the main problem with the Open Ruy is Black's crap structure (backwards pawn on c5). In addition to this, White can easily create either a passed pawn or a dangerous attack by pushing his e and f-pawns. These factors are compensated by Black's activity and queenside majority - if he is allowed to play c7-c5, White may be in for some trouble. I personally have used the Open Ruy with some success but wonder why top GMs have stopped using it if it really is as good as I think it might be. |
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| Mar-12-04 | | BiLL RobeRTiE: I meant backwards pawn on c7. =] |
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| Nov-16-04 | | gauer: PinkPanther,
I agree that Sicilian Najdorf may currently be a more popular defence to 1 e4, being reached more often, but remember that the position you quote stops at move five (and not move eleven, as compared to the critical Spanish Closed main line answer to 1 e4). Wielding black, I'd rather take my chances in an unrefuted century year old opening than rely on studying all the sidelines required to get to the Najdorf positions move-order pet line(s) which one may otherwise choose to look at. It also matches my strategic playing prefence more closely to other parts of my repertoire. I'm much more concerned at studying transpositions toward the Spanish middlegames than the Najdorf, more flexible as the latter move-order may be. Maybe after I'm finished grading the Spanish, I will worry about the Najorf more often - though I don't expect it to be soon ;^) |
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| Nov-16-04 | | e4Newman: <in the game from Linares '04 of topalov-Shirov, after 12. d5, black played Nc4, i believe that is a mistake> I'm going to take you up on that one. The only immediate merit (and it's a weak one) is to prevent white's QN gallop d2-f1-g3. |
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| Nov-16-04 | | e4Newman: Adams vs Kasimdzhanov, 2004 is another good example of "why not" to play 12...Nc4 |
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Nov-17-04
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| Nov-17-04 | | e4Newman: In P Seegolam vs G Timoshchenko, 2004
white doesn't appear forceful enough with chasing the N on c4. a4-b3 appears more correct. Also in that game, black opts for ...f6 instead of ...f5 and gets great action out of his R. At any rate, I think white was up against great odds from the start. |
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| Jun-23-05 | | aw1988: Strangely there are no 3 notable black wins. |
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| Jul-17-05 | | AwesomeMorphy: Can somebody tell me what is the line like after 11..cxd4? |
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| Jul-19-05 | | e4Newman: Sorry I missed your question <AwesomeMorphy>. In this line, black wants to take charge of the open or semi-open c-file. An immediate pawn exchange opens that file right up, but the rook has yet to occupy the file. Furthermore, black's QB is still in the way so 12.cxd4 Bb7
is the best move. Now we're still not too far from mainline Chigorin theory, as 13.Nbd2 exd4 14.Nxd4 Re8
sees white with the stronger, but well contested centre. So an immediate 13.d5!
should favour white after say,
13...Bc8 14.Bd3 Bd7 15.Be3
as black must delay or abandon occupying the c-file with a rook. Although I play the Lopez a lot, I haven't seen these move orders too often. They look playable though. Cheers :) |
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| Aug-13-05 | | 12929011: <WhoKeres> I believe the starting position has been reached more often than any other. |
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| Jul-07-11 | | Igor Egin: What about 12. a3 ? |
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