| Apr-06-04 | | PaulKeres: Anyone think 5.e3 Nc6?! is dubious from Black? If so why? |
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| Apr-06-04 | | ruylopez900: What Black player would play 4...Be7?? Check out the percentages! :O |
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| Apr-06-04 | | Kenkaku: If black has played the opening as he has already (d4, d6, and Nf6), it's a pretty natural followup. I personally only play the aforementioned setup versus 3. Nf3, with the intention of going into a QGD Semi-Tarrasch. |
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| Oct-25-04 | | morphy234: I love playing the Orthodox as black! it's a fun, closed game. Nc6 is pretty dubious without playing c5 first. (semi-Tarrasch) |
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| Oct-25-04 | | Dudley: <PaulKeres> ...Nc6 is always dubious for black in the QGD, since black usually needs to make the move...c5 later to equalize. There is probably no immediate refutation but I notice there are only 2 games in the database with that move, so its safe to say its not a big favorite. |
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| Oct-26-04 | | morphy234: i said that alredy. |
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| Oct-26-04 | | Dudley: Yes, but you didn't say it very well so I thought it could use some elaboration. You may as well get used to that kind of thing if you are going to kibitz here because it happens all the time. |
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Oct-26-04
 | | Chessical: Dudley: <...Nc6 is always dubious for black in the QGD>. I believe that there is an exception to this general rule - the Queen's Gambit Declined, Chigorin Defense (D07) |
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| Oct-26-04 | | azaris: <Chigorin Defense> I think this has been mainly relegated to surprise openings and blitz. I know only one interesting line, the Lazard Gambit: 1. d4 d5 2. c4 ♘c6 3. ♘f3 e5!? 3. dxe5 ♗b4+. Alternatively 3...d4 transposes to the Albin, which is also nice. |
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| Dec-30-04 | | BaranDuin: So we could call 5. ... Nc6 the Unorthodox Orthodox variation. Nice. ;-) |
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| Dec-30-04 | | tomh72000: <<Chigorin Defense> I think this has been mainly relegated to surprise openings and blitz.> And Morozevich. |
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| Dec-30-04 | | RisingChamp: GM Miladinovic uses it regularly as well as GM Kempinski and Skembris doubt you will find too many of their games though |
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| Mar-26-05 | | ongyj: I have a question on QGD. Why does Black often play ...h6 at some time in the opening stage? Is it simply a 'free move' that kicks the Bishop back a little, or is there more to meets the eye? Thanks for the information:) |
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| Mar-26-05 | | Cecil Brown: <ongyj> I've just bought the Queen's Gambit Declined by Matthew Sadler from Caiman.com via Amazon Marketplace. I am still working through it and I'm a class C player so don't take what follows as gospel, it's just how I see it now. Black plays ..h6 for two reasons.
In some QGD positions black suffers from a lack of good squares for his queen, which in turn means he can have problems connecting his rooks. To free the position a bit it is often desirable to play Nf6-e4, when the bishops oppose each other on the h4-d8 diagonal this encourages white to exchange bishops, leaving the black queen on e7 which is quite a good square. If the bishop is on g5 when Ne4 is played it can retreat to f4 and white can often keep it on the board. After ...h6 Bh4 the only available retreat square for the bishop is g3, where it can be exchanged off by the knight on e4 if black so desires. Secondly in some lines white can play Bd3 and Qc2 and threaten to win the h7 pawn with check after exchanging off the knight on f6. To avoid this pressure black can play h6 where the pawn is less of a target. Things can get more complicated than this but that is more or less as I see things today, hope this helps. |
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| Mar-26-05 | | ongyj: Thanks <Cecil Brown>. What you said above makes sense:) |
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| Jul-18-05 | | Robin001: 1 d4 d5 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 Bg5 Be7 5 cxd5 Nxd5 6 Bxe7 Nxe7. Is this line any good for black in taking with the knight like this on his sixth move? |
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| Oct-30-06 | | OJC: For those interested in traps, here's a try from Black's perspective: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 5.Nf3 dxc4 6.e4 Nd5?! 
click for larger viewthis (6. ...Nd5) deviates from theory and is unexplored. White should continue with 7.Bxe7 Nxe7 8.Bxc4 with a non-decisive opening advantage: 
click for larger viewHowever, if white trys this line (which may appear OK at a glance): 7.Bxc4? Nxc3 8.Bxe7 Nxd1 9.Bxd8 Nxb2! saves the knight and attacks another bishop; now white loses a piece: 
click for larger viewSo, 6. ...Nd5 may be worth trying in fast time control games. |
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| May-13-11 | | Helloween: <OJC>Or, you could just play strong moves that are in the spirit of the opening you're playing, instead of trying to get a cheap win with a crappy, boring move.> |
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| Mar-15-12 | | The Finisher: OJC, at first glance I thought 7.exd5 was a killer, but from my play it seems black goes a pawn up. Would be best if you pointed that kind of thing out. Don't listen to anyone saying traps are unsporting; traps in the opening are part of the sport. |
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| Mar-15-12 | | ephesians: <OJC: White should continue with 7.Bxe7 Nxe7 8.Bxc4 with a non-decisive opening advantage. > It's a clear advantage for white. Not bad after 8 moves. |
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