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Mar-29-04
 | | Gypsy: You mean other that Horwitz or Falkbeer in 1840's, right? It does have perfect 3:0 for black in this database. |
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Mar-29-04 | | Vischer: I think I'll do some research on this reversed evans gambit. |
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Mar-29-04 | | Vischer: OK i looked a little bit it looks like its not as good as the evans gambit. White can take with bishop or knight, and has an extra tempo because he is white. So it doesn't look that good. There's also a trap in it: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3. Bc4 b5 4. Nxb5 Nxe4? 5.Qf3 |
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Jul-15-04 | | rochade18: Are there any Top-GMs who play the Vienna game? |
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Jul-15-04 | | Dick Brain: Didn't Spassky play a fianchetto form of the Vienna game for a while? |
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Jul-15-04 | | Helloween: <rochade18> No, but the always-eccentric Ian Rogers recently whipped out a Vienna Gambit: I Rogers vs S Atalik, 2004
<Dick Brain> I believe so. Nowadays, myself included, most players would prefer the similar but superior Glek system in the 4 Knights: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.g3. |
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Jul-15-04
 | | Benzol: <Dick Brain> Yes I believe he did. White can play 3.f4 as well which is similar to the King's Gambit variations Spassky played in his youth. |
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Jul-15-04 | | Dudley: Tartakower said "The beautiful thing about 2.Nc3 is that it threatens nothing." He was an anti-theoretical player and liked to do the opposite of what everyone else was doing. |
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Mar-22-05 | | Kingsider: Shirov just played it[c26]against Kramnik at Amber...round 2. |
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Apr-11-05 | | tintin: Any comments on the line e4 ..e5, Nc3 ..Nf6, Bc4 ..Bc5, d3 ..d6, f4 ..Ng4, f5 ? The two lines i am most interested in being ..Nf2 and ..h5. |
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Apr-11-05 | | Zaius: <tintin> It seems to me 6...♘f2 needs to be played right then, since 7.♘h3 would be played after 6...h5 and would save white quite a lot of trouble (though not all of it) |
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Apr-11-05 | | Akavall: <Has anyone thought of playing a reversed Evan's Gambit with 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bc4 b5!?> Interesting! I usually play 3...Nx4 here and am usually ok, but 3...b5!? looks very interesting, I would have to look into that, Thanks. |
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Apr-11-05 | | Open Defence: <akavall> Opening Explorer look here :-D |
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Apr-11-05 | | Marvol: <Akavall: <Has anyone thought of playing a reversed Evan's Gambit with 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bc4 b5!?> Interesting!> It actually has got 100% for Black, so it must be an incredibly strong opening!
I'm gonna practise it right now!
**plays "this position against Little Chess Partner"**
**gets his ass whooped in an amazing way** |
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Apr-12-05 | | Akavall: <Open Defence> I am not a member :(. <Marvol> Don't play it against computer programs, play it against humans! |
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Apr-16-05 | | tintin: <Zaius>- After ...6. Nf2, what about Qh5! |
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Apr-25-05 | | Zaius: <tintin> ...g6! |
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May-28-05 | | tintin: Qh6!!!! :) |
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Oct-17-05 | | Nimzokhine: I've been playing the Vienna game for some time and tried to find a rather crazy line with good atacking chances and i found the line 1 e4 e5
2 nc6 nf6
3 d4 and if 3... exd4
4 Nd5
is this in anyway sound at all? si there some theory behind this.. btw here is a game i played agenst littlechess partner (i'm playing the white side)
1 e4 e5
2 Nc3 Nf6
3 d4 exd4
4 Nd5 Nc6
5 Nf3 Bc5
6 Bg5 O-O
7 Bxf6 gxf6
8 Qd2 f5
9 Qh6 Be7
10 h4 Re8
11 Ng5 Bxg5
12 hxg5 Rxe4+
13 Kd2 f6
14 Qxh7+ Kf8
15 g6 Re2+
16 Bxe2 a5
17 Qf7# |
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Oct-17-05 | | Bartleby: In pragmatic terms I've always held that the Vienna Gambit is a bit better choice OTB than the King's Gambit, for the simple reason that I believe you need to prepare less. After 1. e4 e5 2. f4 Black has numerous replies, but after 1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 (by far most popular) 3. f4 black pretty much *has* to play ...d5. (other moves are inferior) So by move four at least, if white plans on detonating some home-brewed TN down the line, white can count on these moves being played. |
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Oct-17-05 | | Stevens: I've been looking at this opening over the weekend and i think i've found some useful lines. I'll give them a couple of games to see what happens... The main downfall for me is that i hate having doubled pawns and in quite a few of the main variations white ends up with doubled b or c pawns. |
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Oct-17-05 | | Bartleby: Doubled pawns can be a strength if they cover vital squares or you can advantageously trade off one for an enemy pawn. In the opening if doubled pawns yields you time or a developmental advantage it's often worth the investment. Though if you're truly phobic about doubled pawns the Vienna Game/Gambit probably isn't for you. |
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Feb-25-07
 | | southpawjinx: Here is a Vienna game that I won!! Please let me know how I could have played this better. [Event "www.ChessWorld.net server game"]
[Site "www.ChessWorld.net "]
[Date "2007.2.9"]
[Round "NA"]
[White "darthplutonius"]
[Black "ParmenionScot"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Termination "Black king mated"]
[WhiteElo "1747"]
[BlackElo "1443"]
[Mode "ICS"]
[DateLastMove "2007.2.21"]
[ECO "C26"]
[Board "3373526"]
1.e4 e5 2.a3 Nf6 3.Nc3 Bc5 4.f3 O-O 5.b4 Bd4 6.Bb2 Nc6 7.Bb5 a6 8.Bxc6 dxc6 9.Nge2 Be6 10.Nxd4 Qxd4 11.d3 Nh5 12.Qe2 Nf4 13.Qf2 Qd6 14.O-O-O f5 15.Qc5 Nxg2 16.Rdg1 Nh4 17.Qf2 Ng6 18.h4 fxe4 19.Nxe4 Qd5 20.Nc5 Nf4 21.Qd2 a5 22.Nxe6 axb4 23.Nxc7 Qa2 24.c4 Rad8 25.Bxe5 Qxa3+ 26.Qb2 Nxd3+ 27.Kc2 Nxb2 28.Rxg7+ Kh8 29.Rgg1+ Rf6 30.Bxf6+ ♗lack king mated 1-0 |
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Dec-14-07 | | ganstaman: 1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 -- how is 4. b4? Only game I could find was: Alekhine vs Bogoljubov, 1914 Anyone ever try it out or have an opinion? |
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Jun-11-10 | | midknightblue: <Vischer> conversely, black can also take with bishop or knight in the evans gambit. However, white doesnt need to concern himself with Nx, because it simply transposes into evans gambit accepted with Bc5 lines. in your proposed gambit, I doubt there is any independent significance to Nx as it will also just transpose to Bx lines where the B retreats to Bc4.
I do agree with you about this idea being a less viable gambit for black because he still hasn't developed his kingside Bishop, and therefore is 2 moves from castling, so he doesnt get the same kind of initiative as in the case of the evans gambit. |
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