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|Nov-07-05|| ||fred lennox: From what i read, Botvinnik is the best writer among the WC along with Alekhine and Karpov. Botvinnik really knew how to communicate to the club player. He is clear, subtle, exact while giving the right emphasis. Like his playing everything is to the point.|
|Nov-08-05|| ||suenteus po 147: <Resignation Trap> I'm curious, did Botvinnik keep notebooks on all his best playing contemporaries? You have been diligently filling in Botvinnik's notes on all the Bronstein games leading up to the 1951 world championship, but I wonder if there are more notes. For instance, what did Botvinnik think of Boleslavsky's games, or Smyslov's? Do you know if he kept other notebooks like the "red notebook" on Bronstein?|
|Nov-09-05|| ||Resignation Trap: <suenteus po 147> It would make sense for Botvinnik to keep notebooks on all of his contemporaries, as he was undoubtedly the best-prepared player of his day. However, as far as I know, only the Bronstein notebook has seen the light of day.|
|Nov-09-05|| ||suenteus po 147: <Resignation Trap> Thanks for the update. I bet someone somwhere has those unpublished notebooks and they're just waiting to make a big score on ebay with them....|
|Nov-09-05|| ||offramp: <suenteus po 147: <Resignation Trap> I'm curious, did Botvinnik keep notebooks on all his best playing contemporaries? You have been diligently filling in Botvinnik's notes on all the Bronstein games leading up to the 1951 world championship, but I wonder if there are more notes.> And those notes have been fascinating. Thanks very much!|
|Nov-14-05|| ||notyetagm: Does anyone know the game in which Botvinnik won as Black by sacrificing his queen on g2 to create an absolute pin of the White queen to the White king on the a8-h1 diagonal and then captured a White rook on d2 that was no longer defended because of this pin? The combination looks like 1 ... ♕xg2+!! 2 ♕xg2 ♖xd2 3 ♕xc6 bxc6 and Black has won an exchange and a pawn.|
I first saw the position in Reinfeld's 1001 combinations book in the section on pins. Then I saw the actual game somewhere else and recognized the ending instantly. The game was played in 1931, I believe. Thanks.
|Nov-14-05|| ||KingG: <notyetagm> Was it this one? Kotov vs Botvinnik, 1939|
|Nov-14-05|| ||notyetagm: Thanks, <KingG>, that is it! Now to reinforce this pattern in your mind, check out Sokolov's combination 36 ... ♗xg2! 37 ♕xg2 ♖xd2 from Jonkman vs I Sokolov, 2002.
It provides a <file> analogy to Botvinnik's <diagonal> example.|
I played over that Sokolov game yesterday and knew that I had seen this exact same tactical theme in a Botvinnik game. Thanks again.
|Dec-10-05|| ||Saruman: Botvinnik is one of my 5 favorite players.|
|Dec-10-05|| ||suenteus po 147: <Saruman> Who are the other four?|
|Dec-10-05|| ||Saruman: Fischer, Capablanca, Tal and Lasker.|
|Dec-10-05|| ||suenteus po 147: <Saruman> Very interesing. Thank you.|
|Dec-10-05|| ||Saruman: <suenteus po 147> Botvinnik is number five because of his outstanding endgame skills and general stability.|
|Dec-10-05|| ||suenteus po 147: <Saruman> I used to hate Botvinnik intensely as both a player and a person, but learning more about him I have softened a great deal. His computer style play is not so much a surrender to the silicon beast, but the workings of a mad scientist, up all night cackling in the lab. I don't know why, but that image of Botvinnik in a white labcoat wearing black goggles and holding a beaker bubbling over with the Botvinnik, Sem-Slav System (D44), makes me smile and think better of Botvinnik than I had. He's still a dubious character on par with Kasparov, but I appreciate Mikhail's play a lot more, and his achievements.|
|Dec-10-05|| ||Saruman: <I used to hate Botvinnik intensely as both a player and a person> why? (Its my turn to become inquisitive =))|
|Dec-10-05|| ||suenteus po 147: <Saruman> As a player I used to dislike Botvinnik's "absolute correctness" of play, largely because it reminded me of computer play, which I dislike. I also didn't like Botvinnik's behavior as a person, especially as world champion with the backing of the Soviet School of chess. I came to learn over time, though, that his developments were not the result of computer chess (maybe aspiring to that kind of play) but of his own experimentation, research, and analysis. His style will never be my favorite, but I now have a greater appreciation for his play. As a person, I understand he was just creating the best career for himself he could (in chess at the very least), but his treatment of Bronstein and Tal (let alone others) does make him a likable person to me. There are others who know and have read about Botvinnik more than I have that you should ask if you want more details (and correct details). <Resignation Trap> is a good person to ask off the top of my head.|
|Dec-12-05|| ||suenteus po 147: Hmmm...that should say "does <not> make him a likable person to me" in the preceding post.|
|Dec-12-05|| ||KingG: <suenteus po 147> Have you changed your mind about Kasparov yet?|
|Dec-12-05|| ||suenteus po 147: <KingG> Next week I intend to pour over your Kasparov collection. I won't take it as the final word, but it's my starting point. Any games you want to include there you should over the next seven to ten days :)|
|Dec-24-05|| ||offramp: In the picture of Botvinnik the background carpet on the wall is actually airbrushed in. It was originally Bogatyrchuk and Kortschnoi laughing. They were both erased from history.|
The foreground has been airbrushed, too. The picture used to be of Lev Yashin.
|Dec-24-05|| ||hitman84: <offramp>unbelievable where did u get that info?|
|Dec-24-05|| ||aw1988: <offramp> LOL|
|Dec-24-05|| ||setebos: Actually its communism which ended up in the dustbin of history|
|Dec-25-05|| ||Dudley: I believe they did that. When Kruschev (sp?) took over in the 50s an attempt was mad to de-Stalinize the whole society. I saw a before and after version of a clip from a well known Soviet film about Lenin, and in a triumphant scene the Stalin character was obscured by someone stepping in front of him. I used to think that only the communists tried to rewrite history, but now I see that we (US) do it also, although not in such a blatant form. At least as far as I know about!|
|Dec-29-05|| ||BIDMONFA: Mikhail Botvinnik|
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