Apr-01-14
 | | Stonehenge: He was married to Lucile Pfaender.
Picture of her, on the left:
http://storage.lib.uchicago.edu/ucp... |
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| Feb-18-15 | | zanzibar: She's one of those "fast" women my mom warned me about. The kind that skates circles around you. |
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Feb-19-15
 | | Tabanus: Hyde Park Herald (Chicago, IL) 28 July 1933 p. 6:
<Illinois' new chess champion has this name: 'Grigorieff'He's a Hyde Parker. Vladimer Grigorieff, University of Chicago student residing at International House, became 1933 Illinois State Chess Champion when he won the master's tournament at the City club. He ranks high among players in Switzerland. Grigorieff has spent much of his life in China and in studying in Europe. He has been in America only a short time and this was his first chess tournament in this country. He is working for his Ph. D. in chemistry at the university.> |
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Feb-19-15
| | Tabanus: http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/15... |
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Feb-19-15
| | Tabanus: Picture: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/1540... |
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| Feb-19-15 | | zanzibar: <An interesting case was a Swiss championship in 1931, ended in victory Nimzo-Indian (he made only one draw - with Ionerom). In this competition, the competition is played and a native of Tsarskoye Selo, a student at the University of Zurich Vladimir Grigoriev (1908 - 1984), who was able to win Ionera. (R.Forster lead this party and a brief biography Grigorieva on p. 196 of his monumental work). Grigoriev did not hit the big Bernese tournament in 1932, losing in the qualifying E. Fёlmi party, then went to the US, where he successfully engaged in nuclear power. The database www.chessgames.com Grigoriev represented by seven parties, and Grigorieff Alekhine lost in a blind session 1925 in Geneva and R.Faynu in a US tournament in 1934, and Grigoriev - S.Reshevsky tournament in Chicago. According to the Italian Statistics di Felice there are two stages of the same tournament (Chess Results 1931 - 1935. «McFarland» 2006, p. 222-223). After two victories won in the US in 1937, traces of chess Vladimir Grigoriev lost.> http://www.e3e5.com/article.php?id=...
It's was originally in Russian, so the transliteration doesn't really count for our the first name consideration. I wonder what name was used in the Swiss reporting at the time. Or in Forster's mini-biography, wherever that might be. |
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| Feb-19-15 | | zanzibar: It might be this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0786460644 |
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Feb-19-15
 | | Phony Benoni: I suppose the question is not so much whether W Grigorieff and Vladimir Grigorieff should be combined, but which form of name should be retained. I probably "created" Vladimir, since all his games look like my submissions. I probably had "Vladmir" for the first one submitted, and didn't make or disregarded the connection with "W". But "W.W'. seems to have been favored by American publications. Both Chess Review and the NEw York Times, reporting on the 1937 ACF Congress in Chicago, used "W.W'. exclusively. |
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| Feb-19-15 | | zanzibar: Some more bio info Biographer Bistro (kibitz #9620) <Phony> all the biographers seem to favor W.W. it seems. So, do we migrate the other player's games to here and then change the name? PS- <Chessbase> online (http://database.chessbase.com/js/ap...) shows 8 games with "W", 7 from 1931 Swiss ch and the 1925 Alekhine simul. |
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Feb-19-15
| | Tabanus: Definately Wladimir. Summary of finds: Marriage certificate (http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/1540...), a wedding note in Ancestry.com (http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/15...), US 1940 census, Baltimore passenger list March 1933 (with nationality = Russia), Honolulu passenger list 1969, Biography & Genealogy Master Index, and the US City Directories (1940, 1941, 1943, 1946), they all have Wladimir or Wladimir W. And the US Social Security Death Index has "W. Grigorieff". The family trees add the middle name Wladimir Wladimirovich. He wrote these books: https://www.google.no/search?tbo=p&... Another picture etc.: https://books.google.no/books?id=Vl... The Berkshire Eagle (Pittsfield, Mass.) 12 Nov. 1965 p. 7 mentions a <Wladimir W. Grigorieff of Oak Ridge, Tenn., well-known in the Berkshires in the 1930s and '40s as a champion chess player.> Not to be confused with Vladimir Grigoriev :) |
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| Feb-19-15 | | zanzibar: <Another picture etc.: https://books.google.no/books?id=Vl... OK, digging that deep is impressive. |
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Feb-19-15
| | Phony Benoni: OK, then, it looks like we bring the games of W Grigorieff over here where all the information is, but change the name to <Wladimir W Grigorieff>. |
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| Feb-19-15 | | zanzibar: Yes, agreed. And we should probably grab a few of his 1931 Swiss ch games as well. |
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