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Robert Frentz
  
Number of games in database: 6
Years covered: 1933
Overall record: +1 -4 =1 (25.0%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games.


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ROBERT FRENTZ
France

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 page 1 of 1; 6 games  PGN Download 
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. J Cukierman vs R Frentz  1-0401933ParisD37 Queen's Gambit Declined
2. Alekhine vs R Frentz 1-0231933ParisB60 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer
3. R Frentz vs Baratz 1-01101933ParisD51 Queen's Gambit Declined
4. Lilienthal vs R Frentz  ½-½431933ParisD63 Queen's Gambit Declined, Orthodox Defense
5. Tartakower vs R Frentz 1-0351933ParisA18 English, Mikenas-Carls
6. R Frentz vs Znosko-Borovsky  0-1241933ParisD17 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
  REFINE SEARCH:   White wins (1-0) | Black wins (0-1) | Draws (1/2-1/2) | Frentz wins | Frentz loses  

Kibitzer's Corner
Feb-25-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: Most sources give the player as <M Frentz>. Whence Robert?
Feb-25-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: <<R.> Frentz> according to the Paris 1933 crosstable: http://www.rogerpaige.webspace.virg...

Source: http://www.rogerpaige.webspace.virg...

Feb-25-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Stonehenge: See http://heritageechecsfra.free.fr/19..., http://heritageechecsfra.free.fr/19... and http://heritageechecsfra.free.fr/co....
Feb-25-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: I suspect 'most' sources are channeling Skinner & Verhoeven. They have a tournament cross-table for Paris 1933, with <M Frentz>, citing <La Strategie>. <M> probably stands for <Monsieur>.
May-18-18  zanzibar: <MissS> + others ...

but, but, ...

I have a contemporaneous source listing all the other players with prenom initials - suggesting his prenom starts with M.

See this game:

@submit <

[Event "11e Championnat de France"]
[Site "Sarreguemines FRA"]
[Date "1933.09.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Jung, L."]
[Black "Frentz, M. "]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D30x"]
[EventDate "1933.09.10"]
[Source "Comoedia (Paris) 1933-09-24 p4"]
[Notes "Frentz, M. (M is indeed prenom) is given as Fance in source, but see prev week column"]

1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 e6 4.Bg5 Be7 5.e3 c6 6.Bd3 Nbd7 7.O-O O-O 8. Nbd2 h6 9.Bh4 Re8 10.Rc1 Qc7 11.e4 dxe4 12.Nxe4 Nxe4 13.Bxe4 Bxh4 14. Nxh4 Nf6 15.Bb1 b6 16.d5 Rd8 17.Re1 exd5 18.cxd5 Rxd5 19.Qxd5 g5 20. Qxc6 1-0

>

E.g. source uses M. L. Jung...

Now I know <stonehenge>'s cites an authoritative site, but given my contemporaneous source I need another to break the deadlock.

Whence, indeed.

May-18-18  zanzibar: OK, the lesson is jamais trust la lettre M en franšais.

<R. Frentz> and <M.(!) Jung> -- http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bp...

<R. Frentz> et sans Jung! -- http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bp...

<Frentz>, <R. Frentz> and <L. Jung> -- http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bp...

Oo la la.

May-18-18  zanzibar: OK, my bad - Fance is from France, (Maxime Fance), L. Jung is Lucien, and the game I cited from a tournoi subsidiaire, and not the principle Championnat.

http://heritageechecsfra.free.fr/19...

May-18-18  zanzibar: Let's note the correct name this time round...

@submit <

[Event "Tournoi de Paris (1933)"]
[Site "Paris FRA"]
[Date "1933.10.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Tartakower, Savielly"]
[Black "Frentz, Robert"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A18"]
[EventDate "1933.10.19"]
[Source "Comoedia (Paris) 1933-10-30 p2c6"]

1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 e6 3.e4 d5 4.cxd5 exd5 5.e5 d4 6.exf6 dxc3 7.fxg7 cxd2+ 8.Bxd2 Bxg7 9.Qc2 Nc6 10.Nf3 Bg4 11.O-O-O Bxf3 12.gxf3 Nd4 13. Qe4+ Qe7 14.Qxe7+ Kxe7 15.Bb4+ Ke8 16.Bb5+ c6 17.Rhe1+ Ne6 18.Bc4 Rd8 19.Bxe6 Rxd1+ 20.Kxd1 fxe6 21.Rxe6+ Kd8 22.Re7 Bxb2 23.Rxb7 Bd4 24. Bc5 Kc8 25.Rxa7 Kb8 26.Bxd4 Rd8 27.Rxh7 Rxd4+ 28.Ke2 Ra4 29.h4 Rxa2+ 30.Ke3 Kc8 31.h5 Kd8 32.h6 Ke8 33.Rc7 Kf8 34.h7 1-0

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May-19-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Retireborn: <z> That Tarta game was played in round 8, if my Big 2002 database is to be trusted. They have 32 games from the tournament.

They also use M.Frentz, but more shockingly they replace Cukierman with Bernard Zuckerman (b.1943!)

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