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|Apr-14-13|| ||arrigato: what can I say? Robert Byrne was a fine chess master and a real gentleman along with his brother Donald they formed one of the strongest brother combination in chess annals he will be greatly missed first evans , now Robert Byrne|
|Apr-14-13|| ||whiteshark: Very sad news!|
|Apr-14-13|| ||waustad: Like many others I read his column for many years. I'm sorry to hear of his demise.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||hellopolgar: RIP Robert Byrne!|
|Apr-14-13|| ||andrewjsacks: <HeMateMe> Thanks for the link to fine the NY Times obit.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||andrewjsacks: And as to that top five list, why wasn't Pillsbury mentioned? Robert Byrne was certainly not in the top five, but was most certainly a very strong and often underrated player, and a very fine and important American chess journalist.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||andrewjsacks: Interesting idea, of course, to offer one's list of the top 5 American-born and bred players. Mine? Fischer, Morphy, Pillsbury, Fine, and I'm at a loss for a definitive 5th.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||hellopolgar: "American-born and bred": Larry Christiansen, Joel Benjamin, Nick de Firmian, Patrick Wolff, Walter Browne, Larry Evans, just to name a few. Just look at these names http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._C...|
|Apr-14-13|| ||SteinitzLives: A great guy, so happy he lived so long. I will never forget the surprise and delight of so many Americans when he finished high up in the '73 Interzonal to become a candidate.|
For years his column was the class of weekly chess writing. He was consistent and even handed in his reporting.
He is from the great bygone era of very strong New York GMs and IM players who grew under the teaching of John Collins.
Farewell Robert, I hope to see you on the other side.
|Apr-14-13|| ||RookFile: At his best he was like Petrosian, very hard to beat. Yet in many games he also played crazy tactical games, like Tal. At the end of the day, he was an entertaining, strong player who got a lot of enjoyment out of chess.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||brankat: R.I.P. GM Byrne.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||waustad: <hello> Walter Browne is from Australia originally.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||HeMateMe: <andrewjsacks:> I would put Seriwan in the list. I think he was born in Syria or Lebanon, but didn't learn how to play chess *gasp!* until his mid teens. His chess development took place in the USA, so I think he is a product of USA chess.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||HeMateMe: ...Nakamura too, under this definition. That still leaves Byrne in the top ten, plenty good.|
Robert and Donald Byrne, tough brothers!
Ok, not as tough as the Kray gangsters of mod London, or the Kiletchko chess-boxers, but still...
|Apr-14-13|| ||andrewjsacks: <HeMateMe> Thanks for the follow-up. I always value your comments. You know, Frank J. Marshall was plenty good, too, erratic though he could be... And Isaac Kashdan, for a few years, was a top 5 world player.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||juan31: R.I.P. G.M. R.E. Byrne|
|Apr-14-13|| ||Caissanist: Walter Browne was born in Australia to an American father and Australian mother, and moved to the USA when he was two. I would say he is "American born and bred".|
|Apr-15-13|| ||kingscrusher: A very credible 70% in the 1952 Olympiad beating Bronstein in this team tournament :|
|Apr-15-13|| ||FSR: Video tributes to Byrne by IM Andrew Martin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdaJ... and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZIy...|
|Apr-15-13|| ||plang: I was a big fan of his Chess Column. It has not been the same since he retired in 2006.|
|Apr-15-13|| ||Karpova: Tribute by Andrew Martin: http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId...|
|Apr-15-13|| ||FSR: <plang: I was a big fan of his Chess Column. It has not been the same since he retired in 2006.>|
You got that right. Apparently the NYT picked his not-all-that-worthy successor because the guy was already on the NYT's staff and knew something about chess. http://gambit.blogs.nytimes.com/200... Probably that meant that the Times didn't have to pay him anything beyond his already-existing salary. (He is a FIDE Master. http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?...)
|Apr-15-13|| ||andrewjsacks: <FSR> In the L.A. area, we have seen a similar sorry phenomenon. The L.A. Times chess column was run excellently by IM Jack Peters for years (after GM Jim Tarjan declined the offered post). A couple of years ago, Peters lost the column and it is now a syndicated piece each week, saving the Times the salary of Peters for a small fraction of the cost to them, and virtually no local news, and poor in international chess news, and is, more broadly, a sad commentary on the decline of the newspaper business because of all the online factors.|
|Apr-15-13|| ||keresfan: RIP Robert Byrne.|
|Apr-16-13|| ||FSR: <andrewsjacks> My aunt, who is a law professor at UCLA, sent me some of Jack Peters' columns over the years. He was an excellent columnist. Ditto with Kavalek, who used to write for the Washington Post. It's sad what's happening to newspapers.|
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