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Karl Mayet
Mayet 
Photograph courtesy of Wikimedia Commons.  
Number of games in database: 103
Years covered: 1837 to 1868

Overall record: +17 -77 =9 (20.9%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database.

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With the White pieces:
 King's Gambit Accepted (21) 
    C33 C38 C39 C37
 Ruy Lopez (7) 
    C65 C64 C77
 King's Pawn Game (5) 
    C40 C44
With the Black pieces:
 Evans Gambit (18) 
    C51 C52
 King's Gambit Accepted (17) 
    C33 C37 C34 C35 C38
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   R Franz vs Mayet, 1858 0-1
   Mayet vs W Hanstein, 1837 1-0
   Mayet vs Anderssen, 1851 1-0
   Anderssen vs Mayet, 1855 0-1
   Mayet vs W Hanstein, 1837 1-0
   Anderssen vs Mayet, 1855 0-1
   Mayet vs Anderssen, 1865 1-0
   Mayet vs Anderssen, 1855 1-0

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KARL MAYET
(born Aug-11-1810, died May-18-1868, 57 years old) Germany

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Carl Mayet was born on August 11, 1810, lived in Berlin, and was the most original of the "Berlin Pleiades". He had a penchant for giving up his Queen for an assortment of material in his games. Mayet was a barrister, and later a judge.

In 1839, he defeated Jozsef Szen in a match scoring (+3-2=1). In 1845, he drew a match with Augustus Mongredien with (+3-3). In 1847, he defeated A. von der Goltz in a match (+14-9=1), but then lost a match with Wilhelm Hanstein (+5-12=1). In 1848, he lost a match to Daniel Harrwitz (+2-5=2). In the London (1851) tournament, he was knocked out in round 1 when he lost to Hugh Alexander Kennedy with two losses. In 1851, he lost a match to Adolf Anderssen in Berlin with 4 losses. In 1852, he lost a match to Frederic Deacon (2-5). In 1853, he took 3rd place in the first Berlin championship, behind Jean Dufresne and Max Lange. In 1853, he lost a match to Jean Dufresne (+5-7). In 1855, he lost to Adolf Anderssen (+6-14=1). In 1856, he lost to T. Wiegelmann (2-4) in the 1856 Berlin Knockout Tournament. In 1859, he lost a match to Adolf Anderssen (+1-7). In 1865, he lost a match to Adolf Anderssen (+2-5=1). In 1866, he lost a match to Gustav Richard Neumann (-6=1).

His cousin, Wilhelm Hanstein, also had a distinguished career in chess.

Wikipedia article: Carl Mayet


 page 1 of 5; games 1-25 of 104  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Mayet vs W Hanstein 1-0201837BerlinC40 King's Knight Opening
2. Mayet vs W Hanstein 1-0381837MatchC40 King's Knight Opening
3. Mayet vs W Hanstein  ½-½341837BerlinC44 King's Pawn Game
4. P Bilguer vs Mayet  1-0211838BerlinC35 King's Gambit Accepted, Cunningham
5. Von der Lasa vs Mayet 1-0221839UnknownC57 Two Knights
6. Von der Lasa vs Mayet 1-0291839BerlinC37 King's Gambit Accepted
7. Von der Lasa vs Mayet 1-0391839BerlinC37 King's Gambit Accepted
8. Von der Lasa vs Mayet 1-0301839BerlinC52 Evans Gambit
9. Mayet vs Von der Lasa 1-0491839BerlinA80 Dutch
10. Mayet vs Von der Lasa ½-½301839BerlinC40 King's Knight Opening
11. Mayet vs Von der Lasa 1-0231839BerlinC44 King's Pawn Game
12. Mayet vs Von der Lasa 0-1451839BerlinA80 Dutch
13. Von der Lasa vs Mayet 1-0461839BerlinB21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4
14. Mayet vs Von der Lasa 0-1551839BerlinA80 Dutch
15. Von der Lasa vs Mayet  1-0361839BerlinC45 Scotch Game
16. Von der Lasa vs Mayet ½-½501839BerlinC51 Evans Gambit
17. Mayet vs Von der Lasa 0-1461839BerlinC39 King's Gambit Accepted
18. Mayet vs Von der Lasa 0-1241839BerlinC23 Bishop's Opening
19. Mayet vs W Hanstein  ½-½451841BerlinC51 Evans Gambit
20. Mayet vs Harrwitz 0-1221847Berlin mC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
21. Mayet vs Harrwitz 0-1221847Berlin mC45 Scotch Game
22. Mayet vs Harrwitz  0-1451847Berlin mC45 Scotch Game
23. Harrwitz vs Mayet  ½-½501847Berlin mC33 King's Gambit Accepted
24. Mayet vs Harrwitz 0-1251847Berlin mD51 Queen's Gambit Declined
25. Harrwitz vs Mayet 1-0251847Berlin mC33 King's Gambit Accepted
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Aug-11-09  returnoftheking: what should they say..
he didn't win ? :)
Aug-11-09  WhiteRook48: he keeps losing matches
Aug-11-09  Knight13: <returnoftheking: what should they say.. he didn't win ? :)> Just not mention them.
Aug-16-09  returnoftheking: Te laat, te laat! zei Winnetou,
Het zaad is al naar binnen toe!
Aug-11-11  YoungEd: Mayet, please the court!
Aug-11-12  brankat: R.I.P. master Mayet.
Aug-11-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: R.I.P. Karl Mayet.
Nov-12-14  alshatranji: <Whoever wrote the biography needs to dim it down with all those "lost a match to" stuff>

Good point, especially if they end it by saying that "had a distinguished career in chess".

Nov-12-14  Karpova: The bio looks fine and mostly needs only minor modifications like proper sourcing. I can't agree with the criticism voiced here, since it misses the point. The bio tries to give an overview over Mayet's complete chess career. SeeRod Edwards' page on Mayet: http://www.edochess.ca/players/p55..... For sure, Mayet lost most of those matches, but Anderssen and also Neumann for example belonged to the strongest players in the world back then. It is comparable to playing a match against a top ten player today - an honour in itself already. Despite the strong opposition, Mayet still did score some points.
Jan-09-15  Avun Jahei: I love the style of his games, allways looking for the sacrifice. Thats pure romantic chess, so to speak. Of course that didn't work against the elite, even in his times. But players inferior to imself he must have crushed as nutshells.

Is a great player the same as a successful player? Mayet obviously didn't care that much for the outcome of the game. He wanted to know it. You know, he didn't play for money. And there were no Elo numbers.

Apr-01-15  zanzibar: I have trouble with the statement...

<the most original of the <"Berlin Pleiades">>

which is, I believe, a mistranslation.

Likely it should read

<one of the original members of the <"Berlin Pleiades">>

In English, if you say someone is "*the* original" it implies some special status of the person with regards to their being one of the originals.

The phrasing looks to be copied verbatim from wiki. Let me copy the footnoted reference material over here to illustrate my point (and to elucidate those wondering who the Berlin Pleaiades were):

<Berlin Pleiades

The seven stars of German chess:

Paul von Bilguer, Army Lieutenant and author of the Handbuch, the most influential chess book for 90 years;

Dr. Ludwig Bledow, professor of mathematics and Pleiades founder;

Wilhelm Hanstein, civil servant;

Bernard Horwitz, painter and chess professional;

Baron Tassilo von der Lasa, Prussian Ambassador and chess book; collector (over 2000 books). He never played in a tournament or match;

Carl Mayet, barrister and judge;

Carl Schorn, painter. >

http://www.logicalchess.com/info/tr...

So, here Mayet has no special status, making him "one of the originals", but not "the most original".

One could say that Bledow, in his role as founder, was "the most original", but it's not generally said that way - instead it's more common to just note him as founder.

Apr-01-15  thomastonk: <zanzibar> The statement looks like taken from a German text, and a brief search at Google books yielded Mayet's obituary in "NBSz", see https://books.google.de/books?id=4c... .

The final sentence starts with "Sein Spiel zeichnete sich stets durch Originalität aus[..].", which means that he played always inventive.

Apr-01-15  zanzibar: Thanks, and welcome back!
Apr-01-15  zanzibar: So, maybe the sentence should be changed from...

<was the most original of the "Berlin Pleiades">

to...

<was the most original and inventive player of the "Berlin Pleiades">

Oct-06-15  The Kings Domain: I couldn't help but chuckle reading his bio above. I've never seen a player anthologized with so many losses.
Oct-06-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: "Win, Mayet?"

"Nyet."

Aug-11-16  TheFocus: Happy birthday, Karl Mayet.
Dec-24-17  Sularus: hello, santa claus!
Dec-25-17  Sularus: test................
Aug-11-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Happy Birthday Karl Mayet.
Jul-24-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  Marcelo Bruno: According to Juan Fernández-Rúa, in his "La edad de oro del ajedrez" (The golden age of chess) we don't know the most of Mayet's victories because he wasn't used to annotate them.
Jul-25-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: I'm with the crowd not liking the bio. I'll add it to my to-do list.
Jul-25-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: "DON'T leave home without it!"
Jul-25-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gregor Samsa Mendel: <HeMateMe: "DON'T leave home without it!">

The fact that you're quoting this shows that you are about as old as Karl Mayet.

The fact that I understood the quote shows that I'm that old too.

Rodney Dangerfield got so little respect, there was one time that Karl Malden stole his traveler's cheques.

Sep-13-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  Williebob: Perhaps the match scores in the bio could be listed with an overview, to avoid repetition and preserve some respect? "In match play, Mayet battled unsuccessfully with some of the world's best, though not without the occasional spectacular win," followed by a list with names and results?

Interesting how match play among top players is practically non-existent these days. I guess nobody wants to pay for it? And/or lack of desire by the players?

Also agreed the line "most original" should be changed, as this is a highly subjective qualifier.
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