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Karl Vine
Number of games in database: 2
Years covered: 1956 to 1957

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(born Apr-26-1910, 113 years old) Ukraine (federation/nationality United States of America)

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Karl Vine was born 1910 in Stanislau, Poland (today Ivano-Frankivsk in western Ukraine). His name was Karl Weinstock before coming to USA in 1940.

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Fischer vs K Vine ½-½361956Manhattan Chess Club Semifinal BB32 Sicilian
2. Ed. Lasker vs K Vine  ½-½751957New York-chT finalE91 King's Indian
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  Tabanus: Brooklyn Daily Eagle, 13 Nov. 1945:

<Twelve are competing in a tournament under way at the Imperial Chess and Checkers Center. The leading scores: Aaron Rothman, 4½-½; James Williams, 4-0; Karl Foster and Julius Konins, 3½-1½; <K. Vine>, 3-0.>

New York Evening Post, xx May 1946:

<<Karl Vine>, 12½-1½ won the Marshall rapid. The remaining leaders were: Paul Mann, 11; Jack W. Collins, 10½, J. Westbrock, 9½; Larry Evans, 9; Hearst and J. Hans. 8.>

New York Sun, 16 May 1946:

<Fifteen competed in the weekly speed tournament at the Marshall Chess Club yesterday, the winner being <Karl Vine>, with a score of 12½-1½. His only loss was to the runner-up, Paul Mann, and he drew also with Eliot Hearst. Mann's score was 11-3. Jack W. Collins, 10½-3½, carried off the third prize, and J. Westbrock, 9½-4½, the fourth. Other leading scores: Larry Evans, 9-5; Hearst and J. Hans, each, 8-6.>

Brooklyn Daily Eagle, 28 Aug. 1947:

<Donald Byrne of Brooklyn again topped the list with a score of 14-1 in the weekly rapid transit tournameni at the Manhattan Chess Club. <K. Vine> was runner up with 12-3 and Robert Byrne third with 11½-3½. E. S. Jackson Jr. and Oscar Tenner tied at 9½-5½.>

Brooklyn Daily Eagle, 22 Jan. 1953:

<Although Abe Turner, with 5½-1½, holds the lead in the championship tournament at the Manhattan Chess Club, three Brooklyn players are high up in the standing, as follows: Herbert Seidman, 4½-1½; Max Pavey, 4-1; Albert S. Pinkus, 4-2. <Karl Vine>, 3½-2½, is fifth.>

Brooklyn Daily Eagle, xx May 1953:

<Both Reshevsky and Alexander Bisno were honored guests at the farewell party at the Manhattan Chess Club, during which a knockout rapid transit tournament among 32 was held. James T. Sherwin of Columbia and George Shainswit met in the final and drew. Walter Shipman and <Karl Vine> reached the semi-finals.>

Reposted from the Bistro (post by <TheFocus>):

The power-packed teams of the Manhattan and Marshall Chess Clubs, which always face each other in the final round of the Metropolitan Chess League, clashed once more in the rooms of the defending and pereniallly successful Manhattan champions. The Marshall challengers, with a line-up that probably could have beaten any other team in the country except the Manhattans, made a close fight of it before succumbing by 6 – 7. Manhattan winners were William Lombardy, Bobby Fischer, Daniel Beninson and Walter Shipley, while full points for the Marshall Club were registered by Carl Pilnick, Saul Wachs and A. E. Santasiere. Draws (Manhattan players mentioned first) were registered as follows: Arthur Bisguier vs. Sidney Bernstein; Abe Turner vs. Herbert Seidman; I. A. Horowitz vs. James Sherwin; Dr. H. Sussman vs. John W. Collins; George Shainswit vs. T. A. Dunst; and <Karl Vine> vs. Edward Lasker.

Other teams in the League besides the "Big Two" were the Manhattan Reserves, the Marshall Raiders, who tied for third place, and the Queens Chess Club – <Chess Review, July, 1957>, pg. 196.

Bistro: <This makes me think he is the "Karl Vine" who got divorced from "Irma" in Dade (Miami) in 1946.>

It most probably is. The two had same street address in New York: 138 W 100 St. - Karl Vine on 13 Dec. 1945 and Irma Vine on 4 Feb. 1946.

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  Tabanus: Reposted:

Alan McGowan: <I believe Karl Vine is the same person as Karl Weinstock.

Karl Weinstock (30) arrived at San Francisco on 28 August 1940, having sailed from Yokohama. The ship's manifest shows him as Hebrew, born in Poland, with Sweden as his last residence.

His 1941 Declaration of Intention document in regards to his application for citizenship in the USA shows that 'Karl Vine, formerly known as Karl Weinstock', was living in NY city.

In 1942 he married Irma Gould (<Tabanus> referred to their divorce.>

Alan McGowan: <Further, I have just noticed that the Lachaga book on the Trebitsch tournaments, referring to the 19th event in 1936, states re Karl Weinstock that under the name Vine he was involved in chess in NY (der spater unter dem Namen Vine in New York schachlich auftrat).>

Tabanus: <I changed the name to Karl Weinstock, seeing that he has games before 1940 under that name. "Stanislau Poland" is now = Ivano-Frankivsk in Ukraine. What happened to him?>

New York Naturalization Records, declaration of intention 23 April 1941:

<Karl Vine, formerly known as Karl Weinstock ... 53 E 97 Street NY ... Unemployed ... 30 years old ... born on April 26, 1910, in Stanislau Poland ... race Hebrew .. My last place of foreign residence was Stockholm Sweden ... I emigrated to the United States from Yokahama Japan ... at San Francisco, Calif. under the name of Karl Weinstock on August 28, 1940, on the SS Rakuyo Maru.>

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