| Apr-14-11 | | myschkin: . . .
" .. With Steinitz in the news during the match with Mikhail Chigorin , Dr. Hermann Neustadtl disputed the correct birthdate of Steinitz. Until then Steinitz had given May 18, 1837, to everyone and therefore in most programs and biographies this date was used. But Dr. Neustadtl visited the Jewish City Hall in Prague and found that the correct date was May 14, 1836. Steinitz himself was confused, but as stated before he made several errors on dates. .." ("W. Steinitz, Chess Champion", 2006, p.265, by Kurt Landsberger) . <Jul-26-05 sneaky pete: <ckr> Yes, that's right. Neustadtl in that 1892 letter (to a chess magazine from the collection of Zinkl, an active player in the 1890íes) claims to have seen that date May 14, 1836, in a birth register of what he calls the "Jewish City Hall" of Prague. Off course this can only be ascertained if that primary source still exists and is available to chess detectives from or visiting Prague.> see Wilhelm Steinitz . now for the detectives:
№ 1, Židovská radnice http://www.prague.cz/jewish-city-ha... № 2, chess mag ~ "Deutsches Wochenschach" (1893, p.88) № 3, Open Prague Jewish Community › info@bejt-praha.cz № 4, Wilhelm Steinitz Quote: ".. Mr. Tschigorin's well-deserved victory, or whether it was intended as a congratulation to my birthday, which has been erroneously given in various publications as the 16th of May, 1837, whereas, 1 was born on the 17th of May, 1836. .." (ICM, 1891, p.119)
№ 5, Evergreens Cemetery: http://wwx2.tripod.com/steinitz.jpg . |
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Apr-14-11
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| Apr-14-11 | | Shams: <OCF> More than one such group, it would seem: http://www.businessinsider.com/sara... |
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| Aug-28-14 | | Karpova: Dr. Hermann Neustadtl, born 2 April 1862 in Prague, became <Brunnenarzt> (physician at a medicinal spring) in Karlsbad in 1893. He became acquainted with chess at the age of 19, but already 2 years later he shared 2nd-4th place at the Nuremberg <Hauptturnier> (1883).* He came in 3rd in the Hamburg <Hauptturnier> (1885)** and won Munich (1886).*** Despite severe physical indisposition (<bedeutender physischer Indisposition>), he shared 5th-6th prize in the Frankfurt <Hauptturnier> (1887).**** In the Prague Chess Club tournaments, he won 1st prize one time, else the 2nd prize. He soon couldn't participate in foreign tournaments, due to professional duties. He dedicated his leisure hours to chess, though. He collected old and new chess literary works and his chess library contains <400 Nummern> with more than <700 Bänden> (volumes), with many very rare works among them. Neustadtl contributed to the theory of the Evans Gambit, the Blackmar Gambit and the Steinitz Gambit (see 'Deutsches Wochenschach' 1891-1894). He also participated in the Gambit Correspondence tournament of 'Le Monde illustré', drawing the Chess Clubs of Amsterdam, Besançon, Brussels and Marseille, and winning all the other games, coming in 2nd. His home turf was the endgame and he created many endgame studies, usually printed in the 'Chess Monthly'. 1) From the 'Offiziers-Schachzeitung' 1904, White moves and wins: 
click for larger view2) 'Wiener Schachzeitung', White to move and win:
click for larger view3) White to move and draw:
click for larger viewSource: 'Wiener Schachzeitung', July-August 1906, pp. 259-262 * http://www.edochess.ca/tournaments/...
** http://www.edochess.ca/tournaments/...
*** http://www.edochess.ca/tournaments/...
**** http://www.edochess.ca/tournaments/... |
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| May-09-15 | | zanzibar: His obit/pic can be found in <(Neu) Weiner Schach-Zeitung N20 Oct 1909 p348>. Hopefully this link works for the interested:
http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/a... They give his dob as 1862-04-02, Prague. Also included are three more of his endgame studies, this time w/o knights. |
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| May-09-15 | | thomastonk: <zanzibar> Neustadtl was another jew from Prague - like Moritz Porges and Steinitz, of course. So, instead of
wasting time with secondary sources, one can immediately visit the Jewish birth register. Here he is as no. 47: http://www.badatelna.eu/reprodukce/... I read 1862-04-03. But the writer had some difficulties: two times he wrote 'Herrman' instead of 'Hermann' and 'Neustadtel' instead of 'Neustadtl'. So, this is hardly 100% reliable. Neustadtl himself believed that he was born on the 2nd April 1862, because this date is mentioned in the registry book of doctoral degrees. Another source that appeared during his lifetime and which was probably written with his support is a biography in BCM September 1907, pages 409-410. Once again the date is the 2nd April 1862. Nevertheless, there are also other dates in relevant sources! E.g., Berger's "Schach-Jahrbuch für 1892/93" confirms the 2nd, but gives May instead of April! And please don't hope that the year is always the same! The popultaion register of Prague - which gives only the year of birth, but no date - gives 1861! These funny little things (and some more) will appear later this year in a new book of yours truly. +++
The BCM issue mentioned above has another fine picture of Neustadtl as frontispiece, and after the biography some studies can be found (pages 410-412). The final example is taken from a game Neustadtl vs Porges, Prague, 1901-04-03 - his 39th birthday or the day thereafter, or even his 40th birthday?! Well, in any case it is quite interesting: 
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White to play and win. |
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| Jul-23-15 | | gfbest: Anyone have any additional analysis beyond what is found in Basic Chess Endings position #135 for the Neustadtl-Porges Prague 1901-04-03 end game position. When I have Shredder play Black it draws by playing variations not covered by Fine. In the main line in Basic Chess Endings, Shredder sends the black king to attack white's queenside pawns instead of remaining on the king side. Same thing happens with Chessmaster 10th Edition. Can't figure out where I am going wrong. The analysis in Basic Chess Endings is by J. Faucher if that helps. |
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Jul-23-15
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| Jul-24-15 | | gfbest: Here is the fen with White to move. Black has deviated from the main line in Basic Chess Endings with 11...kd3 8/5p2/4p1p1/4P1P1/p1p2PK1/P1Pk3P/
1P6/8
I have since found the solution by having ChessMaster 10 play both sides with 10 seconds allowed per move. It was a tricky endgame, at least for me. |
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| Jul-24-15 | | gfbest: ps White wins |
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| Aug-26-19 | | Chesgambit: https://chess-db.com/public/pinfo.j...
2500+ rated chess player |
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| Nov-02-20 | | gfbest: Where could I find a copy of BCM Sep 1907 to see the article on Neustadtl-Porges. Are they online? |
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Mar-09-22
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