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| Apr-11-18 | | zanzibar: <Telemus> given that your question wasn't rhetorical, then we can assume the "who" doesn't refer to Winter. Why pose this question in B Lasker's page then, is there some connection with Berthold with regards to "direct speak"? |
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| Apr-22-18 | | zanzibar: RE: antipathy to anecdotes...
There are a few seminal anecdotes that are mandatory entries in the canon: Tarrasch - "Check and mate"
https://books.google.com/books?id=Y... Nimzowitsch - "Why must I lose to this idiot!?"
https://books.google.com/books?id=y... Bernstein - "Am I not a chess idiot?"
Hooper & Whyld (1984) p30
Of course these unsubstantiated quotes are too enjoyable to omit, and are likely correct, if not entirely in wording, than in spirit. |
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| Apr-22-18 | | zanzibar: If <Hooper & Whyld> use anecdotes... Winter's view of the above:
1) Tarrasch - C.N. 5707 (not entirely helpful for English speakers to end the lineage with an untranslated DSZ scan) 2) Nimzowitsch - C.N. 5019
3) Bernstein - ???? |
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| May-21-19 | | DiscoJew: Lets give this man his ELO credit already! |
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May-21-19
 | | HeMateMe: The return of Disco Jew! Where have you been, mate? |
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Jul-20-19
 | | MissScarlett: <The relationship with his wife was unhappy. In 1899, they had a son, the paternity of which his wife denied him in court, which the district court found credible. Lasker-Schüler accused her husband of violence, and in 1903 they were divorced.[6]> The reference is Kamm's biography of Tarrasch. Come on, somebody dish the dirt. |
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Jul-20-19
 | | Telemus: The text is almost complete. Earlier this year, in occasion of Lasker-Schüler's 150th birthday, another aspect of this paternity was emphasized: Lasker recognized this child as his, though he knew he was not the father (German radio). |
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Jul-20-19
| | MissScarlett: Anybody thinking what I'm thinking? Berty was cuckolded by Manny... |
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Jul-20-19
| | MissScarlett: Else's son, Paul, was born on August 24th 1899; average gestation time is ~38 weeks. That would put the time of conception about the very end of November; even if overdue, practically impossible to have been before the middle of November. Lasker was on tour in the UK from the first week of November, where he remained until the middle of January, at least. So it looks as if I may owe Lasker an apology......hmmmm, anyone know Tarrasch's whereabouts? |
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Aug-06-24
 | | Fusilli: Berthold Lasker v Kagan
Berlin, 1894
click for larger viewWhite to play. |
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| Aug-07-24 | | Nosnibor: A very nice find Fusilli ! Bd6!! wins at once. |
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Aug-07-24
 | | Sally Simpson: Nice coincidence, I'm just sorting out my puzzle diagrams for the kids tonight and am going to give them, amongst others, this study by Emanuel.
click for larger viewWhite to play. I'll remove one of them and slip in the Berthold position and we can have a Brothers Lasker night. (perhaps make it a family affair and add Ed Lasker v Sir George.) Kagan - is this the chap yes? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernh... A wee itch tells me the move was missed by Berthold. Read it somewhere, or maybe the itch is because it was once attributed to Emanuel Lasker as White and a correction quoted. (a good chance it was me and I was corrected!) Something about it needs a scratch. It is in Reinfeld's '1001 winning Chess Sacrifices and Combinations.' that is where I recall seeing it, but Reinfeld adds few details, not even adding the names of the players. Thank You Fusilli. |
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| Aug-07-24 | | Olavi: <Sally Simpson> But your 1. Bg8 is by Berthold, Deutsches Wochenschach, 5 Jan 1890. |
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Aug-07-24
| | Fusilli: <Sally> oooh... that's such a nice study! I suppose it is that chap, who happens to have his page here: Bernhard Kagan. I didn't know that whether Berthold made the move was uncertain. In this page, Sam Copeland gives the game as 1-0: https://www.chess.com/blog/SamCopel... If 1-0 is indeed correct, I don't imagine white would have won with any other move. And Copeland does say that it has been misattributed. If Berthold was indeed one of the best players of his time, I find it totally natural that he would have played Bd6. After all, the big difference between the best players of that time and those of our time is not tactical ability. In sum, <Sally>, you gettin' old! :) |
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Aug-07-24
| | Fusilli: Sally, you can wrap up your lesson with this one: Caruana v Sevian, 2023
click for larger viewWhite to play.
Source: https://chesspuzzle.net/Puzzle/934826 |
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Aug-07-24
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Olavi,
I always thought that was Emanuel...so have others. 'Super cool puzzle by Emanuel Lasker.' https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comm... and that is not the only one but I'll go with you. I trust you. Next adult session is a Berthold Lasker Night. Half an hour of solving his puzzles and studies then off home to beat up the wife. (see Berthold Lasker (kibitz #31)) Thanks again Fusilli, (I trust you too) I'll save that one for a Caruana evening (him I do not trust) Half an hour of solving his puzzles then off home to count our money. I did my old trick when looking for Kagan - I put his name that top left box and met Shimon Kagan(I think he is trustworthy) Why is that top left box even there? It's a trap! |
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| Aug-07-24 | | vonKrolock: <Sally> We trust in yacpdb.org, that gives: <"Deutsches Wochenschach"> January 5th 1890 (83, p 10) as source: There's a link to the mag's page, where's stated that this is from a game, played by BL with the white pieces, in the Café Kaiserhof, Berlin. There are several reprints and versions, some registered, and presumably a few more erroneous attributions to the more famous brother... ** BTW That game finish B.Lasker vs Kagan is one of the most spectacular examples of 'single move knock-out' I've ever seen! (¡Muchísimas Gracias <Fusilli>!...) |
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Aug-07-24
| | Fusilli: <vonKrolock: <Sally> We trust in yacpdb.org, that gives: <"Deutsches Wochenschach"> January 5th 1890 (83, p 10) as source> Good find! That means that the year 1894 is wrong, then. <BTW That game finish B.Lasker vs Kagan is one of the most spectacular examples of 'single move knock-out' I've ever seen!> I thought it was quite amazing. It combined multiple themes. It creates two threats, Rf8 mate and taking the queen, and the only move that stops both allows for a third fatal thing: the back rank mate. So much power packed in a single move! |
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| Aug-07-24 | | vonKrolock: <Fusilli> Ops sorry: That refers to the diagram posted by <Sally Simpson> ... (Your own find i not yet searched...) |
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Aug-07-24
| | Fusilli: <vonKrolock> Noted! |
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Aug-07-24
 | | 6t4addict: BL has made an undeletable name in chess history. Congratulations. |
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| Aug-07-24 | | Olavi: The 1.Bg8 study has no doubt often been misattributed to Emanuel, that's true. I remember first seeing it in Kurt Richter's Kurzgeschichten um Schachfiguren, he got it right. |
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Aug-08-24
| | Sally Simpson: Hi vonKrolock,
I trusted Olavi, I always do. I was corrected and happy about it. Of course it has been scattered all over the place as Emanuel but that is what this site and the likes of Olavi is for. To help stamp out these common errors and misconceptions. (a forlorn task but it has to be done.) I gave the kids that Berthold game, Bright Spark got it very quickly admitting he had seen it before.
I asked if knew who white was. "No."
The study was trickier, Bright Spark had not seen that before and the whole class needed a clue. I told them these studies never have extra bits on the board, every unit is there for a reason. Now figure out why there is a white pawn on h5 - they got it. One at a time they were given one minute to solve this. White to play and win. 
click for larger viewBright Spark, a wee 9 year old Indian lad, got it in 10 seconds but he is my star pupil, that is why I call him Bright Spark. Most got it under a minute. (it took me just under a minute as well when I first saw it) No idea who composed it, Berthold Lasker? |
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| Aug-08-24 | | vonKrolock: <Sally Simpson> Certainly, <Olavi> is always attentive and accurate. <Bright Spark> This is something most extraordinary! Thank you for sharing here what happened in that Solving Session; It's very interesting to know that a 9-year-old boy is already an accomplished connoisseur of our difficult Art... If that position has a known author? This is a very complex question 🙂 It could have been known for a few centuries (at least since the 'strong' Queen was introduced (end of the 1400s)... It could be the end of a modern Study (?!), or even have appeared in a Game (!?). * * yacpdb presents just one more BL Endgame Study: Berthold Lasker
"Der Schachwart" 1913.
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(=) white to play and draw |
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Aug-08-24
| | Sally Simpson: Thank vonKrolock,
I have seen that one before though did not know it B.Lasker. I'm pretty sure I gave it myself in a column/blog or what ever. I've spent a wee while scanning about but cannot find where I used it. Looking at it now I am not 100% of the exact move order but I know the pattern and the very important and amusing last move. But I could take it to board juggle out the solution. So I class this one as 'solved.' |
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