| Aug-05-08 | | whiteshark: It looks as if Franz G Jacob played only six rounds in Hamburg 1910 (+0 =3 -3) and abondoned the tournament afterwards. Why? Any background information? |
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| Aug-05-08 | | sneaky pete: Not in the 1911 tournament book. It only states that Jacob, Mülhausen i. Els. (with <Alechin>, Moskau and Dus Chotimirski, Moskau last minute replacement for the invited trio Capablanca, Janowski and Rubinstein) withdrew after round 6. "Eine unangenehme Störung erlitt das Meisterturnier leider dadurch, daß Herr Jacob nach der 6. Runde zurücktrat." |
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| Aug-05-08 | | RoyalFlush: <"Eine unangenehme Störung erlitt das Meisterturnier leider dadurch, daß Herr Jacob nach der 6. Runde zurücktrat."> Das ist aber schade. :)
I wonder what was his unpleasant problem. Health issues? |
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| Aug-06-08 | | whiteshark: Thanks <sneaky pete>. A super-tournament if Capablanca, Janowski and Rubinstein would have played. (Lasker, of course, maybe Vidmar, Bernstein, Maroczy, Mieses were missed, too) |
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May-25-16
 | | sachistu: Although some sources refer to Franz Jacob, the player at Munich 1900, Ostende 1907, and Duesseldorf 1908,was Friedrich G. Jacob. This is confirmed from The Field, 1907 and the Ostende 1907 tournament book. The situation at Hamburg 1910 is not quite so clear as the tournament book only refers to him as Herr Jacob (of Mühlhausen) whereas earlier tournament references indicate Strasbourg. Jacob was one of 3 players (the other two being Alekhine and Duz-Khotimirsky) invited to replace Capablanca, Janowski and Rubinstein. Jacob is not listed in the crosstable, but his 6 games are given in round 1-6. The tournament book did not give the circumstances, but only indicates "the tournament suffered an unpleasant disturbance when Mr. Jacob withdrew after round 6". (This is an approximate translation of the German). Within the paragraph discussing invitations, is a footnote (*) next to Jacob's name. This may provide a clue to which Jacob was at Hamburg. The footnote indicates E. Post was also invited, but apparently failed to report on time, and the tournament committee, not wanting to lose the opportunity for Jacob to appear in his first international tournament, refused (his entry <- my addition). Again, this is an approximate translation, which, hopefully, I have not mangled too badly. Clearly, this was not E. Post's first international tournament; having appeared at Barmen 1905, Ostende 1906 and Berlin 1907 to name three. Thus, if this was Jacob's first international tournament, this might be Franz Jacob as the Jacob appearing at Munich 1900 and Ostende 1907 was Friedrich G. Jacob (so this was not his first international tournament). If the bio in Wikipedia is correct about the birth date of 1870, it looks like Wikipedia is incorrect about the name (as it should be Friedrich G. Jacob). However, the birth date given on CG for Franz Jacob (1908) must be incorrect (for any of the aforementioned tournaments). More research is also necessary about the (Franz) Jacob listed at Helsinki 1952 and Munich 1954. It does seem odd to have a 40 year gap of inactivity and still represent the same player. Perhaps more research will discover the reason (or if there is ANOTHER Franz Jacob!). Perhaps <Tabanus> who is very adept at 'ferreting out' such information may be able to locate some birth (and death?) dates. |
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May-26-16
| | sachistu: Regarding the later appearances by (Franz) Jacob, Munich 1954 was another last-place finish. Deutsche Schachrundschau Caissa 1954 covers the Munich zonal in issues 12 and 13. In issue 13, a general discussion of the players involved mentions Jacob. (Note: only the player last names were used). On page 241, the editor (Barkhuis of Duesseldorf) praises "the Saarlander Jacob" for his tireless and conscientious effort despite having bad positions and ending with a bad standing in the tournament. He goes on to say that although Jacob did not play badly, he lacked the experience to compete in such a difficult tournament. Finally, he says Jacob needed to divide his time appropriately (apparently indicating Jacob found himself in time trouble too often). Note: I am paraphrasing the comments rather than quoting them word-for-word. These last two sentences suggest to me we are talking about a different (Franz) Jacob as he was no stranger to difficult tournaments e.g. Munich 1900 and Ostende 1907 (to name a couple). The remark about time trouble could be interpreted as directed towards a younger player, but not necessarily so as many players have that affliction despite years of tournament experience. Regardless, I think the 'experience' comment suggests we are talking about a different person than the one who played in the early 1900's. |
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May-26-16
 | | Tabanus: <sachistu> Too difficult. I briefly tried, but Franz and Friedrich are very common names, and no certainty about age or where they lived. Also Jacob is a common surname. There are dozens of candidates. Needing more info, and if so, I can try again. |
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May-26-16
| | sachistu: I understand <Tabanus>. Thanks for trying. There is another source I can check to see we can get a little more information. |
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