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Theodor von Scheve
Number of games in database: 130
Years covered: 1879 to 1911

Overall record: +40 -70 =19 (38.4%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 1 exhibition game, blitz/rapid, odds game, etc. is excluded from this statistic.

With the White pieces:
 Queen's Pawn Game (19) 
    D02 D05 D04 D00
 Ruy Lopez (9) 
    C77 C62 C61 C60 C80
 King's Gambit Accepted (6) 
    C39 C33
 Queen's Gambit Declined (5) 
    D37 D30 D35
 King's Gambit Declined (4) 
    C31 C30
 Giuoco Piano (4) 
    C50 C53
With the Black pieces:
 Ruy Lopez (15) 
    C77 C67 C74 C78 C80
 French Defense (15) 
    C01 C14 C13 C00 C15
 Vienna Opening (7) 
    C25 C26 C29
 King's Gambit Accepted (6) 
    C39 C35
 French (4) 
    C13 C00
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Tarrasch vs Von Scheve, 1890 1/2-1/2
   Von Scheve vs Zukertort, 1887 1-0
   Paulsen vs Von Scheve, 1887 0-1
   Von Scheve vs Spielmann, 1907 1-0
   Schlechter vs Von Scheve, 1901 0-1
   Von Scheve vs Chigorin, 1902 1-0
   Von Scheve vs Metger, 1887 1-0
   J Mason vs Von Scheve, 1901 0-1
   Von Scheve vs Tarrasch, 1888 1-0
   Von Scheve vs Marshall, 1901 1-0

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Monte Carlo (1901)
   Monte Carlo (1904)
   Manchester (1890)
   Frankfurt (1887)
   9th DSB Kongress, Leipzig (1894)
   Monte Carlo (1902)

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(born Jun-11-1851, died Apr-19-1922, 70 years old) Germany

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Theodor von Scheve was born in Cosel in the Prussian Province of Silesia. His best result was a tie for 3rd place with Chigorin at Monte Carlo (1901).

Theodor also played consultation chess on the teams of B Lasker / von Scheve / Trobach, Boelke / Naumann / von Scheve & Tarrasch / von Bardeleben / von Scheve / Schotlaender.

Wikipedia article: Theodor von Scheve

Last updated: 2018-06-11 20:26:18

 page 1 of 6; games 1-25 of 130  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Tarrasch vs Von Scheve 1-0191879BreslauB13 Caro-Kann, Exchange
2. Von Scheve vs Tarrasch 0-1151880BreslauC31 King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit
3. Von Scheve vs Tarrasch 0-1301880BresslauC30 King's Gambit Declined
4. Tarrasch vs Von Scheve 1-0191880BreslauB13 Caro-Kann, Exchange
5. Tarrasch vs Von Scheve 1-0341883NurnbergC01 French, Exchange
6. Steinitz vs Von Scheve  1-0411886New YorkC35 King's Gambit Accepted, Cunningham
7. J Mieses vs Von Scheve 0-1321887BerlinC26 Vienna
8. Tarrasch vs Von Scheve 1-0221887BerlinC47 Four Knights
9. Von Scheve vs Blackburne  0-1241887FrankfurtD00 Queen's Pawn Game
10. Von Bardeleben vs Von Scheve  1-0321887FrankfurtC01 French, Exchange
11. Gunsberg vs Von Scheve  0-1371887FrankfurtC25 Vienna
12. Von Scheve vs A Fritz 1-0211887FrankfurtC47 Four Knights
13. Schiffers vs Von Scheve  1-0311887FrankfurtC55 Two Knights Defense
14. Von Scheve vs Metger  1-0611887FrankfurtC14 French, Classical
15. Max Weiss vs Von Scheve 1-0381887FrankfurtC77 Ruy Lopez
16. Von Scheve vs J Noa  1-0201887FrankfurtB06 Robatsch
17. Burn vs Von Scheve  1-0501887FrankfurtD05 Queen's Pawn Game
18. Von Scheve vs Taubenhaus  0-1331887FrankfurtC47 Four Knights
19. Von Gottschall vs Von Scheve 1-0491887FrankfurtC25 Vienna
20. Von Scheve vs Zukertort  1-0371887FrankfurtD05 Queen's Pawn Game
21. Von Scheve vs Tarrasch  0-1551887FrankfurtD04 Queen's Pawn Game
22. E Schallopp vs Von Scheve ½-½721887FrankfurtC01 French, Exchange
23. Von Scheve vs Mackenzie 0-1321887FrankfurtC31 King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit
24. Alapin vs Von Scheve  ½-½221887FrankfurtC01 French, Exchange
25. Von Scheve vs J N Berger  ½-½241887FrankfurtC50 Giuoco Piano
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Feb-11-07  sneaky pete: Elsewhere Cosel is given as Kosel, a village in Schleswig-Holstein (Sleswick-Holsatia). Patschkau is now Paczków in Poland. Army officer by profession, living (or stationed) in Breslau (where he co-founded the Schachverein Breslau Anderssen and of course met Dr Tarrasch) and later in Berlin. Proof of his strength are matches he drew in Berlin in 1891 against Walbrodt (+4 -4 =2) and Von Bardeleben (+4 -4 =4).
Feb-11-07  SBC: <vonKrolock> and <sneaky pete>

Thank you both very much for taking your time and trouble to retrieve that information. It's a great help.


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  vonKrolock: <SBC> You're welcome! Of course, <sneaky pete>'s message is much more consistent, original and informative...
Jun-07-09  myschkin: . . .

Von Scheve, der recht spät zum Schach fand, hat nach Siegbert Tarrasch s Einschätzung „der Schachwelt das vielleicht einzig dastehende Schauspiel gegeben, wie sich ein guter Spieler noch im reifen Mannesalter zum wirklichen Meister entwickelt“. Er nahm in den Jahren 1887 bis 1911 mit bemerkenswerten Erfolgen an vielen internationalen Turnieren teil. Unter anderem wurde er Vierter in Leipzig 1888 und Dritter in Monte Carlo 1901.

Bio (in English):

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  Calli: <Mischkin> sehr populär bio hier, zweimal in nur sechs Anmerkungen :-)
Jun-07-09  myschkin: . . .

Woups², Kro must have entered my ignore somehow (cheap subterfuge) ... <Calli> from now on you're a birate!

Congrats Captain

Schwamm drüber, mein Monokel muss wohl mal zum User: Autoreparaturwerkbau;)

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  zydeco: Here's some information on von Scheve, all from Google Books.

He was a major in the Prussian arms (seems to have been in the artillery) stationed for a time with the Emperor of China, who decorated him personally.

- George Greville More, More Society Recollections

"Von Scheve is considered one of the most studious masters in Germany. He is not thought to be very strong, but if once he gets a theoretical advantage in a game he is apt to win against the strongest antagonist."

- Checkmate Magazine, Vol 1

Steinitz says that von Scheve "is regarded as a player who has learned much [he seems to have started playing seriously when he was fairly old] and plays correctly according to the principles of the modern school."

- International Chess Magazine, Vol 7

Dec-29-13  Karpova: His son, also named Theodor von Scheve, has been at the front as a Lieutenant since the beginning of the war. In November, he was awarded the <Eiserne Kreuz 2. Klasse> and wounded in March. He returned from the front on June 6.

His other son, Götz von Scheve, has also been at the front since the beginning of the war. He was awarded the <Eiserne Kreuz 2. Klasse> in November and lately with the <Eiserne Kreuz 1. Klasse> and the <Ritterkreuz des Sachsen-Ernestinischen Hausordens>.

Their father and the famous Chessmaster, Theodor von Scheve himself also had the <Eiserne Kreuz> since the battles of 1870. His father got the same medal in 1841.

Source: Page 108 of the May-June 1915 'Wiener Schachzeitung'

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  MissScarlett: <The Chess News>, vol. 11, no. 113, pp.29-30, January 17, 1916:

<The ranks of the German chess players are being depleted by the European war. Out of 1215 who were reported as having joined the colors, 210 were either killed or wounded. It is pleasing to note, however, that 166 have won an Iron Cross. Tartakower is one who received a decoration, but the master, Von Scheve, is among those killed.>

It's not clear if this is a mix-up, or if the son was also a master.

Jun-11-16  TheFocus: Happy birthday, Theodor von Scheve.
Jul-07-17  zanzibar: The German-speakers already noted this quote by Tarrasch:

<Von Scheve, der recht spät zum Schach fand, hat nach Tarraschs Einschätzung „der Schachwelt das vielleicht einzig dastehende Schauspiel gegeben, wie sich ein guter Spieler noch im reifen Mannesalter zum wirklichen Meister entwickelt“.[1] >

But they didn't let the rest of us in on it...

I can't really understand the google translation properly:

<Von Scheve, who was quite late to chess, has, according to Tarrrrr's assessment, "given to the chess world the perhaps only acting play, as a good player still develops in the mature man's age to the real master." [1]>

Perhaps this is a better translation:

<From Scheve, who was rather late for chess, " the chess world, where perhaps only unexampled spectacle of a good player is still developing in mature manhood, to the real master " has by Tarrasch assessment.>


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<Von Scheve took up chess fairly late in life. In Tarrasch's estimation Von Scheve <has given the current chess world a unique example of a good player still developing in late adulthood to genuine master level.>>

That looks like a reasonable translation of what Tarrasch was saying.

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  morfishine: <offramp> perhaps this is the best translation: <Having spent the first half of his life as a Prussian army officer tasked with slaughtering human beings under the guise of war, Von Scheve spent the last half of his life slaughtering chess opponents with an ability rarely seen by one who took up this honorable profession so late in life>


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  WorstPlayerEver: <MissScarlett>

Probably a mistake. Von Scheve's 'Der Geist des Schachspiels : eine Studie' was published in 1919.

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  Telemus: <offramp> You forgot to translate the word "vielleicht".
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  ChessHigherCat: I'm no GoogleTranslate fan but in this case the bad translation is not its fault because the author should obviously have written "Beispiel" (example) instead of Schauspiel" (play/spectacle).

Yet another example of Garbage-in Garbage-out

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  Telemus: <CHC: the author should obviously have written "Beispiel" (example) instead of Schauspiel" (play/spectacle).> Tarrasch's formulation is old-fashioned from todays point of view, but perfectly understandable in German.

BTW, Tarrasch's quote is from "Dreihundert Schachpartien", chapter 1 "Breslau 1862-1880" (page 3 in the 2nd edition, and page 2 in the edition of Jens-Erik Rudolph, 2012).

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  ChessHigherCat: <Telemus>:

I'm fluent in German and don't like it. Look:

<Von Scheve, der recht spät zum Schach fand, hat nach Tarraschs Einschätzung „der Schachwelt das vielleicht einzig dastehende Schauspiel gegeben, wie sich ein guter Spieler noch im reifen Mannesalter zum wirklichen Meister entwickelt>

"In Tarrarsch's estimation, von Scheme, who took up chess quite late in life, "has given the world of chess perhaps the only [SPECTACLE OR EXAMPLE?] of how a good player can still become a real master after reaching adulthood."

Germans always defend one another but which would be the better choice here, Spectacle ("play" would be ridiculous of course) or Example? Spectacle would be conceivable in a figurative sense but only if it were really a dramatic occurrence, and I don't think an adult becoming a master is quite dramatic enough.

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  WorstPlayerEver: <CHC>

'Schauspiel' means they had no tv or youtube. So anything quickly could become a 'Schauspiel'. Certainly if it is -still- something extraordinary, I suppose

My interpretation.

Jun-11-18  john barleycorn: <spectacle> is closest to Tarrasch's intentions.

<demonstration> would be neutral, imo.

then <einzig darstehende Schauspiel> would not be <only spectacle> but <unique/peerless spectacle>

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  ChessHigherCat: Fischer vs. Spassky is spectacular, but the late-bloomer Theodor von Scheve getting a master's norm in adulthood? I can hardly contain my bodily fluids!
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  offramp: <Telemus: <offramp> You forgot to translate the word "vielleicht".>

Perhaps I did.

Jun-12-18  zanzibar: <CHC> your elaboration is helpful in understanding google's confusing translation - where I take it PLAY isn't chess play but a SPECTACLE PLAY.
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  ChessHigherCat: I honestly think he probably just misspoke and confused Beispiel (example) and Schauspiel (drama/spectacle), which are very similar words. People make that kind of mistake all the time.
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  Telemus: Scheve vs Walbrodt, 4th match game, 17 Oct 1891 (Black to move):

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To me 38.. g5 looks like the most simple way to draw. White's tempo moves lead nowhere and he cannot bring his king to the center.

Walbrodt played 38.. ♔g5? -+. It followed 39.b5! f5. This move got a ? in Budapesti Sakk-Szemle no. 12 (1891). 40.f4+! ♔f6 41.fxe5+ ♔xe5 and White has several winning moves.

39.. f6 was better, but cannot save the game.

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40.b3! and the remaining tempo move is just good enough. Interesting variations for analysis happen after 40.. f5 41.f4+ exf4 42.♔f3 or 40.. ♔f5 41.h4!! (another 'only move').

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