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Mar-08-23 | | Caissanist: Very sad. This kind of thing scares parents from letting their kids, and in particular girls, from leaving the house for much of anything, which is horrible in itself. Kids basically being kept in jail is no doubt a big contributor to today's seeming epidemic of mental health issues. |
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Mar-08-23
 | | chancho: Is that the look of guilt or of a particularly difficult variation he is mentally checking? https://www.chessgames.com/f/49584.... |
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Mar-08-23 | | Caissanist: Chess.com has an article up with excerpts from the Journal article, and it sounds bad. I don't see how he can avoid prison, so long as his accusers are willing to testify in open court: https://www.chess.com/news/view/wal... |
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Mar-08-23 | | boz: He's finished. |
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Mar-08-23
 | | Korora: <boz> Gone from the international chess scene, certainly. But Claude Frizzel Bloodgood wasn't finished as a chess player when HE went to the Gray-Bar B&B. |
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Mar-08-23
 | | Fusilli: Well, the article from chess.com, sourced from the WSJ, that <Caissanist> linked to, is pretty damning. Multiple women are reporting assault. Not unwanted verbal advances, but physical assault. For example: <Later that night, after the party, Mr. Ramirez led the 16-year-old back to his room, she said, and undressed her on his bed while she was visibly drunk. At that point, she added, he attempted to have sex with her, but she refused. He then initiated oral sex, when she says she wasn't in a position to consent to.> Attempted rape of a minor. If this is true, this guy belongs in prison. The story will not end there, since the WSJ claims to have found evidence that both the USCF and the St Louis Chess Club knew of allegations against Ramirez. And...<Ramirez was nonetheless awarded the job of coach for the U.S. women’s team at the World Chess Olympiad in Chennai, India in 2022.> |
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Mar-08-23
 | | perfidious: <Fusilli....Attempted rape of a minor. If this is true, this guy belongs in prison....> I'll sign that.
<....The story will not end there, since the WSJ claims to have found evidence that both the USCF and the St Louis Chess Club knew of allegations against Ramirez. And...<Ramirez was nonetheless awarded the job of coach for the U.S. women’s team at the World Chess Olympiad in Chennai, India in 2022.>> If USCF and the SLCC knew and went ahead despite this knowledge, this becomes a far worse affair than a hypothetical instance of drunken groping at a cocktail party with the ensuing 'he said, she said'. |
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Mar-08-23
 | | Fusilli: From the WSJ article:
<In 2021, Greg Shahade, Ms. Shahade’s brother and a high-level player who organizes chess events, contacted St. Louis Chess Club and U.S. Chess to inform them of Mr. Ramirez’s alleged behavior, according to emails reviewed by the Journal. The email to the club included allegations involving girls as young as 15. Two months later, a letter came back from a lawyer representing the club, acknowledging that it had heard about the allegations in October 2020. The letter said they weren’t aware of any inappropriate conduct by Mr. Ramirez. It further said that the club wasn’t the proper party to review and investigate the matters he raised.> Interesting that the St Louis Chess Club doesn't consider it its concern to review and investigate sexual assault accusations against one of its employees... An employee the club regularly put in close contact with women, including minors. Mr Sinquefield, get ready to pay out. Big bucks. <Over the course of those years, Mr. Ramirez’s alleged behavior became an increasingly open secret, people in the game said, and caused some in the community to distance themselves from him. Chess.com, the popular platform for the game that also hosts events, hasn’t had a working relationship with Mr. Ramirez to write and play on the website since 2013, the company said, but internally agreed to not reconsider him for future work after first hearing allegations against him in 2019.> Both the USCF and the St. Louis Club's investigations started way too late. SLU, on the other hand, must have clear policies in place (like any other university). SLU removed him from his post as coach of the school's team the day after Shahade's post. |
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Mar-09-23 | | boz: <Korora: <boz> Gone from the international chess scene, certainly. But Claude Frizzel Bloodgood wasn't finished as a chess player when HE went to the Gray-Bar B&B.> Interesting. I didn't know about him. The things you miss when you take a few years off chess! |
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Mar-09-23 | | stone free or die: The Weinstein #metoo movement dates from 2017:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeToo...
Any organization that "looked the other way" after then will certainly be held to account. |
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Mar-09-23 | | Chessius the Messius: Ah, a new scandal is just what chess needs.
Nice coincedence that it comes from the same guy who was the first with the "we know you are guilty" look on his face. He was the henchman! |
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Mar-09-23 | | stone free or die: <Chessius> I'd forgotten that. https://en.chessbase.com/post/aleja... |
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Mar-10-23
 | | Fusilli: The US Chess Federation posted this statement on the matter: https://new.uschess.org/news/us-che... This is interesting: <Mr. Ramirez was selected as the coach of the 2022 Women’s Olympiad Team; however, as is standard practice for our Olympiad teams, that decision was made by the team independently of US Chess. > So... a team of women chose him as their coach? Were these women aware of the allegations? Did the USCF make them aware of the allegations? (The USCF statement itself acknowledges it learned of the allegations in 2020.) |
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Mar-10-23 | | stone free or die: And this from the end of <Fusilli>'s article: <n the meantime, Mr. Ramirez’s US Chess membership has been suspended.> |
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Mar-10-23 | | Granny O Doul: So he won't receive Chess Life?! |
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Mar-10-23
 | | FSR: https://www.chess.com/news/view/wal... |
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Mar-10-23
 | | FSR: <Granny O Doul: So he won't receive Chess Life?!> Looks like he'll have to read it at the library or buy it at Barnes & Noble. Sad! |
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Mar-11-23
 | | MissScarlett: <The allegations reverberated across the chess world, which is increasingly centered in St. Louis. The local club, backed by billionaire chess enthusiast Rex Sinquefield, has opened the World Chess Hall of Fame, funded grants and scholarships, and run camps and individual lessons since its founding in 2008. The club also formed new competitions like the Cairn’s Cup, a women’s competition intended to increase female participation in chess. A spokesman for Sinquefield referred comment to the local club. The nonprofit reported spending more than $14 million in 2019, the latest available tax filing, and has been a major funder for U.S. Chess, which moved its offices from Tennessee to St. Louis last year. Ramirez was the organization’s highest-paid employee in 2019 with a salary of $143,524.> https://www.stltoday.com/news/local... |
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Mar-12-23 | | Caissanist: Ramirez seems to have cleaned up his act sometime around 2016, or at least I haven't heard of any allegations from after then. Perhaps the members of the women's team were aware of some allegations but had decided to move on, much as Shahade did until she found out the other accusations besides her own. |
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Mar-18-23 | | Chessius the Messius: Ok. I wonder what Hans Niemann's status is in relation to St. Louis. Can't believe Hans wants to be some sponsored by some loco joco. Which could cause jealousy around the place. Is not it, Alejandro? Long story short: Rex is calling the shots and used Hans to annoy Carlsen. Two birds, one stone. The Billionaire Walk, so to speak. They all fell for that trick. Carlsen is personally too weak to deal with Rexy. Oh irony! Now the story makes any sense. |
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Mar-18-23 | | Chessius the Messius: Corr: Minus 1x some |
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Mar-18-23 | | Besrqe: <Chessius the Messius> Youre like two steps away from Chris owens..... |
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Mar-18-23 | | Besrqe: In other words, if youre suggesting Carlsen has always been a cheat, at first using his father as a culprit, then great. If youre then suggesting that money man Rex wanted to flex and allow an obvious and admitted cheater like Hans into the mix to run another cheater like Carlsen off who has since now abandoned the world title then, fine. At least use plain English |
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Sep-06-23
 | | louispaulsen88888888: cheat mix discussion around cat |
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Sep-06-23
 | | louispaulsen88888888: I can outchrisowen him any day! |
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